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Hello Everyone,

I am building a house now and would like to get it wired throughout. I am new to the wiring aspect of things, so was hoping someone might be able to shed some light.

I have a split level house and am looking to get either CAT6 or CAT7 wiring done. Smart TVs will be in each room, cameras will be throughout the inside and outside. I am just not sure how to go about wiring it. I know that each room should have an ethernet port/cable come out of a wall.

My question is...
Would it be best to have ONE cable or TWO per room? I know that worst case, I would be able to get a switch to multiply the single room cable, but still would like to know what people recommend and why. Also, I am debating if it is worth doing the Kitchen and Bathrooms, any recommendations?

The house will have home automation at some point using SmartThings or HomeSeer, not sure yet, but most of that stuff is wireless either way. I also have a few Synology DSMs so that will be in the same closet or room as the main rack will be.

Please let me know your thoughts and reasonings.
Thanks in advance :)
 
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One cable per wall jack is usually adequate, but you may need to consider in which rooms you may need wired connections on an opposing side of the room. In that case, an extra cable to that room may be required.

I'm assuming the cameras will be security cameras. I would recommend a separate cable for each camera and have them kept on an isolated LAN segment, especially if they will be continuously recording. If they will be wireless cameras, you should consider a separate access point that will be dedicated for them. Multiple recording cameras sharing the same LAN segment with your media devices [strike]may[/strike] will cause bandwidth and latency issues.

For most, it's not likely a cable to a kitchen or bathroom would be useful, unless it's for a specific purpose that can't be covered by wifi.
 
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1 word...conduit. Cat5e, Cat6, Cat 7...matters not if you can pull something new, later.

1 or 2 per room? Costs nothing more to pull 2 wires to each room over pulling one.
Or, a $15 switch if you need more in a particular room.

Kitchen, yes.
Bathrooms? I wouldn't bother.


And have a detailed, documented wiring diagram. Either you do it, or you verify that the guy doing it documents it.
The number of threads in here about:
"We just moved into a new house, and there is an RJ-45 jack, but it doesn't seem to work...."
'Well....where does that connect to?'
"I dunno"


Wireless security cameras? I consider those to be a security hole, rather than a security benefit. Why increase the attack surface?
Wired cameras only.
 
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Thanks for your replies guys. I will most likely run 2 in each of the rooms and one in the kitchen, just in case.
I will be ordering 1000ft spool of Cat6 from Amazon today. What else will I be needing? I havent worked around networking a while, so I would appreciate a few links to the stuff I will need to test. I know there is a tester, a crimper of some sort, connection plugs that go on each side of the cable, and/or a faceplate on one end instead of a plug. Not sure what any of it is called, so if anyone can provide a few links, that would be super helpful so I can place the order today.
Thanks in advance :)
 
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Honestly, just to be a bit more future proof because Cat7 is a bit more expensive for a 1000ft spool, but the Cat6 is at a decent price. Also, I need PoE for the IP Cameras.

Any recommendation for which Cat6 cable would be best?
Also, a schematic of some sort of how to wire the ethernet cables to the jacks? and I will also need the other end of the cable if you can please advise on that. Also, a crimping tool of some sort to get the wire in the connector and a testing tool to make sure it works :)

Would it be best to have one wire on each side of a room (on two sides), or both jacks on the same plate as the one you linked me too?



 
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Thank you again :)
I counted, if I do double connection on each wall in the room, or do a single connection on two walls in each room, it came out to around 14 total. Any recommendation for a switch to connect all of these to?

Also, how would I go about putting all the IP Cameras on an isolated LAN segment? What is need for that.
 
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And if you're going to make your own cables with RJ-45 on the ends, practice, practice, practice.

Sacrifice a few meters, cut into short segments.
MUCH easier to get the technique right when sitting at your desk with a 1 foot long cable, rather than with a 80 foot cable that is one floor up and 3 rooms over.
 
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Very true! Thanks for the suggestion. I will definitely do a few test runs on short cables while I am sitting at a desk :) Practice makes perfect haha

What would be good RJ-45 jacks to put on the cable ends at the main meet location where the switch will be?
 
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The house is a Split Level so technically no full floors, its all open. I was thinking of having all the wires come into a closet in one of the bedrooms which will be the office and I have a built in cabinet in the wall where I wanted to have a rackmount type set up. Luckily the the little cabinet can be accessed directly from the attic, but I rather have it in the cabinet rather than in the attic itself so I dont have to climb up there in case there is an issue somewhere. The top level contains the 3 bedrooms (one of which is the office). A few stairs down is the main floor with the living room, dining room, kitchen. And a few more stairs down is the Den, Laundry Room and Garage.

So the best I can think of is running everything through the attic down. The bedrooms are easy since they are right beneath the attic, but the main floor and the lower floor will be a bit harder to do.

The IP Cameras are going to be about 4-5 on the outside of the house, so I need a cable to have PoE, so thats why Cat6 was chosen. A few IP Cameras on the inside of the house as well (can never be too safe lol) which will all be recording to a Synology DS server.

All the stuff you mentioned with the exception of the 16port switch has been added to my cart.
Still missing the RJ-45 connectors to use, but not sure which are best or if all of them pretty much the same? Should I go shielded (with the metal jacket on it)?

The cable provider will be Fios for the time being, but will most likely switch to TWC or Optimum sometime next year once my contract with Fios is done and over with.
 
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FiOS is MUCH better than your cable options.
I have FiOS, and would never go back to a cable connection.

When my 2 year price reduction lock in ended, I got upgraded from 50/50 to 75/75, for the same price, and another 2 years.

RJ-45 ends? Yeah, they're all pretty much the same.

For my camera system, I use one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N9HW2GQ
It's own dedicated DVR and server function.
A single thin cable to each camera, inside or out, that provides the power and signal.
Accessible through the DVR box, from any PC or smart device.
 
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I already have a few Hikvision cams which I want to user since I spent a couple hundred on them, plus have 2 synology DSMs which total 128TB so as might as well use that :)
I used to have TWC and they were pretty crappy, but Optimum was good when I used to have it in NY, but now im in NJ and not many places where I've lived had OPT, but now this new house, has all the options, so I am debating. I do like Fios, but the prices are up there. We'll see about that, I have another year or so left, so not in a rush :)

With regards to "isolated LAN" for the IP Cameras, how would I go about doing that? Do I need a special switch that's able to get this done? or how would it work? Also, it needs to be PoE since the cameras will run on that.
 
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Thank you for that :)

So, this is my list so far:
- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0112ZYXNQ
- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GFZ5VUC
- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0072JVU8S
- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004D5PFGW
- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LG6DQUI

- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GSQ7IPU
Debating if this one would be a good choice. I know its a bit much but I need a switch that has PoE capability since I will bave 4 exterior cams and about 6 interior cams, so 10 total. Any cheaper alternative thoughts?
 
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Cat5e + PoE = yes
https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/10338486/does-poe-work-over-cat5e
http://www.cat-5-cable-company.com/faq-power-over-ethernet.html
http://www.veracityglobal.com/resources/articles-and-white-papers/poe-explained-part-2.aspx

For an alternative viewpoint (may be a bit biased due to source)
http://www.cablinginstall.com/articles/2012/08/cat-6a-vs-cat-5e-poe.html


Advantages of Cat6 vs Cat5e?
10Gigabit performance to 55 meter. But only if you have 10G devices at both ends.
Both will do 1gigabit to 100 meters (assuming a well constructed cable and termination)
 
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As far as I can tell, yes. But do verify from multiple sources, before you string wire all over the house.
 
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