gtx 1060 3gb vs rx 470 strix 4gb vs r9 380x G1 gaming

Shark_10 · Sep 11, 2016

Hi guys I need your wisdom

I have 3 different GPUs options at similar price point, please help me choosing one

Asus dual Gtx 1060 3Gb

http://www.dimercom.mx/index.php?route=product/product&path=25_73&product_id=10257

$256.45 USD

ASUS STRIX GAMING RX 470 4Gb

http://www.dimercom.mx/index.php?route=product/product&path=115&product_id=10259

$221.75

Gigabyte r9 380x G1 gaming edition 4Gb

http://grupodecme.com/hardware/tarjetas-de-video?product_id=26743

$242.88 USD

I wanna know which one will perform better and if it's worth it to pay more for gtx 1060 but only 3Gb vram

Thanks guys

genthug · Sep 11, 2016

The 1060 will outperform both of them... until it hits its 3GB mark. At which point performance is going to drop off like a shot due to it running out of VRam to use. The 1060 is toted as a maxxed out 1080p card. Using 1080p myself, I can tell you there are many games out there already using more than 3GB of VRam. Personally, I'd get the RX 470.

photonboy · Sep 11, 2016

GTX1060 3GB

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_470_STRIX_OC/24.html

The RX-470 closes the gap in some newer games, but with GTX1060 is 37% faster in those games above. Furthermore, the DX11 drivers favor NVidia in some games so if you have a weaker CPU you may see reduced performance (relatively) with AMD in some DX11 titles.

3GB?
I still have a GTX680 2GB. I rarely have issues. You will run into titles where 3GB isn't sufficient at higher settings, so if you see a lot of stutter then investigate if that's the issue by dropping down your settings and seeing if it runs smooth.

Anti-aliasing in particular can eat a lot of VRAM (so 4xMSAA instead of 8xMSAA for example).

If the performance difference wasn't so great on average I'd recommend the card with more memory. You can work around games which are memory hungry, but you can't work around raw performance issues.

Other:
The R9-380X is similar to the RX-470 in performance but the RX-470 has been tweaked a bit. There are other feature in the newer NVidia and AMD card as well such as HDR, HEVC and other things related to monitors etc.

CTurbo · Sep 11, 2016

I would get the 470. How much is the cheapest 4Gb 480???

genthug · Sep 11, 2016

But the fact of the matter is that if OP isn't looking to max out at 1080p, then Pascal/Polaris shouldn't be on the table honestly. Yeah, you can just turn down settings, but at that point why even bother with the extra money on the 1060? Just go get a lower card like a 460 and keep the settings at medium anyways.

photonboy · Sep 11, 2016

genthug :

I disagree with that.
Pretty massive difference in performance. RX-470 is 70% faster->
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_460_STRIX_OC/24.html

Already plenty of titles that can't hit 60FPS at 1080 with the RX-470.

Witcher 3
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_460_STRIX_OC/21.html

B4:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_460_STRIX_OC/10.html

You wouldn't likely use the same settings, but my point is you already have to drop some with the RX-470 to achieve 60FPS. You have to significantly drop them with an RX-460.

So... ?

I don't get your LOGIC. You basically said why get the better card when you can simply turn down the graphics quality?

PatrioticPickle · Sep 11, 2016

3gb 1060 is still great, even in games that chew more than 3gb VRAM.

http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/3gb-vs-6gb-gtx-1060-vram-comparison-more-competitive-than-you-might-think/

genthug · Sep 12, 2016

It's certainly great, I'm not knocking it as a card, but I still feel like the 3GB is a hit to performance that honestly shouldn't be there.

And yeah, the 460 was a bit of an exaggeration, but that's essentially my point. Your solution to the 3GB+ VRam point was to simply knock off the settings, at which point the GPU won't get used to it's fullest extent. Which I see as being a perfectly fine solution, but not when there are other cards that have more VRam like the 6G version of the card, the 4G RX 480, or the 4G RX 470. But, for two of those cards pricing hasn't been shown and I don't speak spanish(? is that the language on the site?). I also (personally) don't think we should just be looking at DX11 for comparing the cards... you now have to look at DX12. I'm not 100% sure on how the 470 compares to the 1060 in DX12, but I know the 480 is certainly beating it, regardless of how much raw power is lost between the 480 and the 1060.
+1 to the benchmarks using over 3GB of VRam. I stand by my choice though, 4G 470.

renz496 · Sep 12, 2016

if you look at TPU benchmark carefully 1060 3GB still end up come out ahead of RX470 4GB even at 4k resolution. and that's where most people thinking that where that extra 1GB on 470 going to show it's advantage over 1060 3GB. as for DX12....hard to say actually. AMD did gain some advantage because they now able to plug the "bubble" in their architecture by enabling their ACE engine that otherwise not accessible with DX11 but so far the result for DX12 is really mixed in the bag. just look at DEMD:

http://techreport.com/review/30639/examining-early-directx-12-performance-in-deus-ex-mankind-divided/3

developer already mention there is no gameplay or visual difference between DX11 and DX12 for the game. with DX12 you might be able to gain some more FPS but they also sacrificing game stability.

PatrioticPickle · Sep 12, 2016

1060 3gb performance isnt far off a 6gb 1060, only a few cuda cores difference

JUICEhunter · Sep 12, 2016

My 780ti is very similar to a 1060 3gb in vram/overall speed and can tell you for sure since I closely monitor vram usage that gpus slow down before running out of vram.

I had a 4gb 670 and it couldn't touch the 780ti or even come close in any benchmark.

photonboy · Sep 28, 2016

genthug :

PRICE was my main point.

Also, downgrading anti-aliasing to reduce video memory consumption does NOT mean the GPU can't be fully used. It doesn't work that way. Some graphical tasks use more memory than others so you choose the best combination of settings that produces the best visual benefit.

The RX-470 and GTX1060 3GB, roughly speaking trade blows in benchmarks, however as I think I said the DX11 drivers from AMD are going to drop the FPS slightly in some games if you have a weaker CPU.

The RX-470 is a more future-proof card due to:
a) more VRAM, and
b) ACE architecture (which already helps a few DX12 titles, but we really need DX12 or Vulkan titles coded to use these new API's right from the start to take full advantage)

So another year or so and we should see a title or two adding over 20% or so. There is a limit because the better scheduling is still limited by how fast the GPU performs (though there are other benefits such as POSSIBLY reducing stutter).

So I guess if he has a half decent CPU then the RX-470 4GB is a good choice.

We can talk pros and cons all day long and there is no correct answer for everyone. I for example, might want to see the NVidia PhysX benefit of the GTX1060 to play Batman games.

Whatever. If in doubt then I say get a non-reference RX-470 4GB as well.

maxalge · Sep 28, 2016

genthug :

It's certainly great, I'm not knocking it as a card, but I still feel like the 3GB is a hit to performance that honestly shouldn't be there.

And yeah, the 460 was a bit of an exaggeration, but that's essentially my point. Your solution to the 3GB+ VRam point was to simply knock off the settings, at which point the GPU won't get used to it's fullest extent. Which I see as being a perfectly fine solution, but not when there are other cards that have more VRam like the 6G version of the card, the 4G RX 480, or the 4G RX 470. But, for two of those cards pricing hasn't been shown and I don't speak spanish(? is that the language on the site?). I also (personally) don't think we should just be looking at DX11 for comparing the cards... you now have to look at DX12. I'm not 100% sure on how the 470 compares to the 1060 in DX12, but I know the 480 is certainly beating it, regardless of how much raw power is lost between the 480 and the 1060.
+1 to the benchmarks using over 3GB of VRam. I stand by my choice though, 4G 470.

the 1060 and 480 are within 3% of each other in dx12

the 1060 is significantly faster in current games

it only gets beat in vulkan

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