Help for a new PC's components

filippo94

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Hello everyone, new to the forum so notice me if I am infringing the rules. Also forgive my inability to write in proper English.
I am new to the subject of building PCs from scratch as well, and i have some confusion about some things.
I will list the components I was thinking of buying and related problems in choosing theme.

1) I've started with thinking about the purpose of the machine. It's intended for general purpose,web-application development and general app. development (for my studies), and some gaming (not very requiering one).

2) Next i looked at the CPUs going straight with intel, since its the one i am familiar with.
Among Intel's CPUs I went with the I5-6600K since I wanted to overclock it (more on this later)
and tought that I had no need for an I7-6700k(with 2MB cache more, some higher clockrate and double the threads), yet I am unsure if I should maybe dump more money on the CPU and take theme away from elsewhere.

3)I than choosed the chipset, leaning towards the Z170 knowing that it supports Cpu/memory overclocking.(Eventhou on intel's Z170 chipset's page it state that "[/u]It supports overclocking functionalities for 6th gen processors[/u]". Am I missing something?) Though here i have started encountering some problems not really knowing what to look for in a chipset. Are there compatibilitiy problem between CPU-chipset?Or is it just a metter of how many connections i need?(eg. sata, PCIe etc.) Some help in this regard would be lovely.

4)With my not-so-resoned choices above I moved to the motherboard. Well more problems!Beside the facts that there are litteraly hundreds of mobo to choose from, and that each and everyone of theme offers special features as well. I have ended up going for an Asus Z170-P.

5)Now for memory. I think 2x8Gb will suit my needs, Ddr4 was my choice since both the Cpu and the motherboard supported it. For the frequency of the ram i was going with the 2133Mhz seeing that the CPU supports "DDR4 1866/2133 @1.35v" but than I started encountering ram stick that worked on 3000Mhz, i saw that the motherboard supports such frequency but i haven't found a CPU that state support for that frequency!So i was, once again, really confused!Do I just ignore the fact that all processors i saw on intel's website supports, at max, ddr4 at 2133Mhz?

6)GPU. Well no real problem here as it came down to my needs. I dont render video, 3d or such so it's basicly for videogames only. Since I play light-wight games a GeForce GTX 950 might work.

7)SSD, 250Gb for programs and OS + some hardrive storage.

8)COOLING, I wanted to try the EK-KIT L360 for my CPU. I saw Ek disourage cooling both the cpu and the gpu with a 360 rad. If i was not to overclock any of theme, do you think i could cool both the cpu and the gpu with it?(ofcourse by adding necessary components)

9)PSU. A 650W 80+ psu. (650 might be overkill!?But i did not want to go short on W in case i want to upgrade the system).

If you ended up to this point : Thank you for taking the time to read a scrub-confused-non-english-speaker post!I am lookin foward to your feedback.
 
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Hello and welcome to the forum :)

If you aim for a gtx 950 than you don't need an i5 6600k, just get the i5 6400 or even i3 6100, its more than enough for light gaming. What games are you going to play? You might even want to have a look at the rx 470?

you can also have a look at the rx460, it's around the same performance as a gtx 950 but might be cheaper in your country.

A 650w is overkill, if you are going to get a i5 6400+gtx950 a 450w is plenty and you save money because you can get a cheap motherboard.

i5 6400+rx 470 (not rx460)+ cheap motherboard might cost the same as an i5 6600k+gtx 950 +z170 mobo, but it will give you much better performance, and you won't need a EK-KIT L60, since the i5 6400 will come with a stock cooler.
 
You do not need an i7
I do not know though how cpu intensive Web-applicatiom development is but I'd definitely stick with an i5 to provide 4 physical cores
Intel CPUs only support DDR4-2133MHz natively. With Intel's XMP 2.0 RAM speeds can be boosted to 3866 MHz though provided the stick is able to reach that speed.
Again I do not know how demanding developing web-applications is and if that would in fact profit off higher clocked RAM
If you do like the looks of water cooling go for it. Air solutions usually provide the same performance cheaper.
 

filippo94

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Hello, thanks for your answer!
With your solution (i5-6400 + rx460 + cheap mobo) the price would defenetly drop. I dont know about performance tho, could you explain more about it?
The game i usually play are dota 2 and some wow, both of theme i play with verry low settings!they are both quite dated as games goes, so i wouldnt worry much about the gpu. So the rx460 with that 30$ less could be an option!
For the PSU i wanted to have a margin of upgrade, so a 550 maybe?It's about +-15 euros for a +-100w so i'd rather spend those 15euros more and have planty.
 

filippo94

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Thanks to you as well for the answer. They are not (as far as what i do, since it's for my university) very demanding, but since i have to handel database connection and query i guess if the database becomes large a faster clock could help operations on it. Also there are classes the daemon has to execute in order to provide the client of dynamic content so I think faster Cpu would definitely benefit me.
 


Well since the gtx 950 and rx460 are both low end cards, you dont need the most powerful cpu to handle them.
An i5 6600k is a bit better than an i5 6400, but paired with one of those gpus you won't notice any difference and then the i5 6600k is just a waste of money. :)

But if you use the money you saved getting a cheaper mobo and cheaper cpu, is that enough to turn that rx460 into a rx470? because the i5 6400+rx 470 is a really nice combo. The rx470 is around twice as fast as the rx460.

You can use a 550w psu, it's not an issue ofcourse, but like I said if you are going to get a i5 6400+rx 460 you wont need anything above 450w. I run an i7 4790+gtx 1070 on a 550w psu no issues, so you might guess that a 550w will be more than enough for an i5 6400+rx 460, but if you really want a 550w then go for it :)
 
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yeah would definitely go with a nice i5 then
I work with a lot of database related applications that are quite big and since we got i5s in the office it's so much nicer than with the old i3s