Final Opinions on PC gaming build?

grrsona · Sep 12, 2016

I am going with this build
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/23bh3F

Any finals opinions or suggestions? I have a seperate HDD I will install. As well as a copy of Windows.

Hlsgsz · Sep 12, 2016

Excellent. Good job!

manddy123 · Sep 12, 2016

grrsona :

I'd go with two 4GB DRR4 2133 RAM sticks, they're faster than a single a 8GBstick. Buy them in a kit so they'll work in dual channel. ( This is since your CPU supports just until 2133, so you'll have to do a bit of tweaking on the bios to run at 2400 or you will be downgraded, not really a problem IMO )

I believe that that CPU will bottleneck the 1070, if you don't wanna overclock anything and have some remaining money you can maybe add a i7-6700 it will run much better.

Aside from that, nice choices!

RonRave · Sep 12, 2016

manddy123 :

grrsona :

I'd go with two 4GB DRR4 2133 RAM sticks, they're faster than a single a 8GBstick. Buy them in a kit so they'll work in dual channel. ( This is since your CPU supports just until 2133, so you'll have to do a bit of tweaking on the bios to run at 2400 or you will be downgraded, not really a problem IMO )

I believe that that CPU will bottleneck the 1070, if you don't wanna overclock anything and have some remaining money you can maybe add a i7-6700 it will run much better.

Aside from that, nice choices!

Why on earth do you think his CPU will bottleneck that GPU?

manddy123 · Sep 12, 2016

RonRave :

It's just a i5-6500, it's a good CPU but not a high-tier one. The 1070 IMO is much stronger so in comparison they are no "equivalent", so i believe the CPU will bottleneck it. The i7-6700 would be more than sufficient IMO.

RonRave · Sep 12, 2016

manddy123 :

So with absolutely no empirical evidence you're going to tell someone that based on your opinion a CPU with bottleneck their GPU? You know they have benchmarks for this sort of stuff and that CPU absolutely will NOT bottleneck a 1070.

manddy123 · Sep 12, 2016

RonRave :

That's why i stated in every post that it was my opinion about it, if he wanted some certainty he could always look in the tests you mentioned. You could've posted those here don't you think? It'd be much better than just come here and blaming me for the info. IMO you did just the same, as you didn't post any tests at all. But anyway m8, chill, we're all here to learn ^^

RonRave · Sep 12, 2016

manddy123 :

Saying something is your "opinion" when it's factually incorrect doesn't excuse it.

There is tons of literature regarding CPU vs GPU use in games. The majority of games (unless very specifically CPU bound) only benefit about 1-3% by going from i5 to i7"

There are 100's of posts on this very website debunking the myth you're perpetuating.

http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/intel-pentium-vs-core-i3-vs-core-i5-vs-core-i7-what-do-gamers-get-by-spending-more/

If you don't actually know the answer to something, there's no need to throw out answer's and preface it with "in my opinion"

You're not helping anyone learn useful information this way. And we're all here to learn.

RonRave · Sep 12, 2016

manddy123 :

Saying something is your "opinion" when it's factually incorrect doesn't excuse it.

There is tons of literature regarding CPU vs GPU use in games. The majority of games (unless very specifically CPU bound) only benefit about 1-3% by going from i5 to i7"

There are 100's of posts on this very website debunking the myth you're perpetuating.

http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/intel-pentium-vs-core-i3-vs-core-i5-vs-core-i7-what-do-gamers-get-by-spending-more/

If you don't actually know the answer to something, there's no need to throw out answer's and preface it with "in my opinion"

You're not helping anyone learn useful information this way. And we're all here to learn.

grrsona · Sep 12, 2016

RonRave :

manddy123 :

Saying something is your "opinion" when it's factually incorrect doesn't excuse it.

There is tons of literature regarding CPU vs GPU use in games. The majority of games (unless very specifically CPU bound) only benefit about 1-3% by going from i5 to i7"

There are 100's of posts on this very website debunking the myth you're perpetuating.

http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/intel-pentium-vs-core-i3-vs-core-i5-vs-core-i7-what-do-gamers-get-by-spending-more/

If you don't actually know the answer to something, there's no need to throw out answer's and preface it with "in my opinion"

You're not helping anyone learn useful information this way. And we're all here to learn.

Okay, thank you both. Deposits the controversy both opinions are important to me. With that, mr rave do you have any opinion about his statements about ram?

Hlsgsz · Sep 12, 2016

manddy123 :

RonRave :

That's why i stated in every post that it was my opinion about it, if he wanted some certainty he could always look in the tests you mentioned. You could've posted those here don't you think? It'd be much better than just come here and blaming me for the info. IMO you did just the same, as you didn't post any tests at all. But anyway m8, chill, we're all here to learn ^^

If you are hear to learn, don't do so by misleading others in the process. Opinions such as the one you stated are best reserved for thread that are tagged "discussion". Interventions such as yours are counterproductive and do the OP a disservice. RonRave is absolutely right.

Hlsgsz · Sep 12, 2016

OP, while getting 2x4Gb of ram may have it's merits since the MB you rightfully chose has 4 slots, i can;t not recommedn that you go with 2x8 seeing as teh price diff is under 20. As for speed, it doesnlt matter. Just get the cheapest, regardless if it's 2133 or 2400.

RonRave · Sep 12, 2016

grrsona :

RonRave :

Okay, thank you both. Deposits the controversy both opinions are important to me. With that, mr rave do you have any opinion about his statements about ram?

With an i5 and a 1070 your RAM config isn't going to make a meaningful difference in your performance. Depending on what processes you typically have in the background (i.e. Spotify or Google Chrome) while you game you might want to consider getting 16GB of RAM over 8GB, as you will see more impact on performance based on the AMOUNT of RAM you have.

Many games are moving toward 8GB as the minimum or recommended, so it's always good to be slightly ahead of that, assuming you'll be running more apps than just a game.

manddy123 · Sep 12, 2016

@Hlsgsz , @RonRave

Okay guys, sorry for the mess. Will be more careful posting in the future. Thanks to you both. ^^

Hlsgsz · Sep 12, 2016

manddy123 :

No worries. Nobody's upset and I'm glad you understood.

grrsona · Sep 12, 2016

Hlsgsz :

Thank you, so what Mandy said about bios tweaking is incorrect?

grrsona · Sep 12, 2016

manddy123 :

Thank you for your opinion Mandy, and thank you for being civil like that as well.

Hlsgsz · Sep 12, 2016

grrsona :

Yes and no. In theory you could tweak the BIOS on some specific boards to run that ram at 2400, but taht is beyond ths scope of this conversation. For all intents and purposes, it doesn't matter if you get 2133 or 2400 ram as it will work at 2133. So, like i said, get the cheapest.

grrsona · Sep 12, 2016

RonRave :

grrsona :

With an i5 and a 1070 your RAM config isn't going to make a meaningful difference in your performance. Depending on what processes you typically have in the background (i.e. Spotify or Google Chrome) while you game you might want to consider getting 16GB of RAM over 8GB, as you will see more impact on performance based on the AMOUNT of RAM you have.

Many games are moving toward 8GB as the minimum or recommended, so it's always good to be slightly ahead of that, assuming you'll be running more apps than just a game.

So I want more ram if I am running things in the background?
Could I get 8 now and upgrade to 16 later? Or would it be better to get 2 8 gigs now for cheaper in the long run?

Hlsgsz · Sep 12, 2016

grrsona :

RonRave :

grrsona :

With an i5 and a 1070 your RAM config isn't going to make a meaningful difference in your performance. Depending on what processes you typically have in the background (i.e. Spotify or Google Chrome) while you game you might want to consider getting 16GB of RAM over 8GB, as you will see more impact on performance based on the AMOUNT of RAM you have.

Many games are moving toward 8GB as the minimum or recommended, so it's always good to be slightly ahead of that, assuming you'll be running more apps than just a game.

So I want more ram if I am running things in the background?
Could I get 8 now and upgrade to 16 later? Or would it be better to get 2 8 gigs now for cheaper in the long run?

2x8. The price diff is so low from 2x4 to 2x8 that it's an absolute no-brainer.

RonRave · Sep 12, 2016

manddy123 :

No worries! Wasn't trying to be a dick but when I first started building computers I wasted a lot of money bc I took someone from a forum post at their word.

I hope to one day be able to throw money into my computer without regard - until that day building PCs always requires careful planning!

grrsona · Sep 12, 2016

Hlsgsz :

grrsona :

RonRave :

grrsona :

With an i5 and a 1070 your RAM config isn't going to make a meaningful difference in your performance. Depending on what processes you typically have in the background (i.e. Spotify or Google Chrome) while you game you might want to consider getting 16GB of RAM over 8GB, as you will see more impact on performance based on the AMOUNT of RAM you have.

Many games are moving toward 8GB as the minimum or recommended, so it's always good to be slightly ahead of that, assuming you'll be running more apps than just a game.

So I want more ram if I am running things in the background?
Could I get 8 now and upgrade to 16 later? Or would it be better to get 2 8 gigs now for cheaper in the long run?

2x8. The price diff is so low from 2x4 to 2x8 that it's an absolute no-brainer.

How does this fare http://pcpartpicker.com/product/KF8H99/geil-memory-gpr416gb2133c15dc
It is much cheaper is it good quality?
against another choice from here?
http://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#X=0,23240&Z=16384002

Hlsgsz · Sep 12, 2016

grrsona :

Hlsgsz :

grrsona :

RonRave :

So I want more ram if I am running things in the background?
Could I get 8 now and upgrade to 16 later? Or would it be better to get 2 8 gigs now for cheaper in the long run?

2x8. The price diff is so low from 2x4 to 2x8 that it's an absolute no-brainer.

How does this fare http://pcpartpicker.com/product/KF8H99/geil-memory-gpr416gb2133c15dc
It is much cheaper is it good quality?
against another choice from here?
http://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#X=0,23240&Z=16384002

It's very good. As said, teh cheapest will do. Well so long as it's from the big boys: Geil, Corsair, Crucial, Kingston, Mushkin. G.Skill.

grrsona · Sep 12, 2016

Hlsgsz :

grrsona :

Hlsgsz :

grrsona :

2x8. The price diff is so low from 2x4 to 2x8 that it's an absolute no-brainer.

How does this fare http://pcpartpicker.com/product/KF8H99/geil-memory-gpr416gb2133c15dc
It is much cheaper is it good quality?
against another choice from here?
http://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#X=0,23240&Z=16384002

It's very good. As said, teh cheapest will do. Well so long as it's from the big boys: Geil, Corsair, Crucial, Kingston, Mushkin. G.Skill.

Thanks so much! Last question: according to reviews the case only has
One fan, will that fan be enough to cool the whole system?

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