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I decided to post here since it covers all components. What are peoples thoughts on http://www.userbenchmark.com/ for determining system health? I only discoved it about 3 weeks ago but ran at least 1 test on the 3 systems I've ran in the past 3 weeks. Atm my SSD is severely underpreforming compared to what it was performing at, so I'm not sure if its faulty or motherboard related.

So here's my PC before upgrade: http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/1579136

That 7870 I will probably sell and ship to anywhere in Australia if anyone is interested. That clock it was running at was stable enough to run MSI kombustor for 24 hours no issue. Doesn't mean its safe or as stable as it would be at stock but it preformed about 20% better in game and had no artifacts or stutters or crashes.

PC before suicide: http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/1643990

My motherboard and cpu died, thread here: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3179431/post.html After what happened today I will probably attempt to power it one last time before I go and purchase my new board and cpu.

PC after suicide: http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/1676822

I had this cpu and board lying around and currently am using it until I decide what motherboard I should get. The board claims to have sata 3.0; for those who google it, it is revision 2.0 and says sata 3.0 6gb/s on the motherboard itself. My SSD scores are seriously low compared to what they were on my short lived i5 3570k, 1060 system. Is there a chance my old board did some damage to my SSD? and is Userbenchmark a reliable site?
 
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Oh ok, I didn't realize you were using rev2. Was only going by what was listed in userbench. You did a reinstall of windows? If not I would start there. It seems odd that your ssd speeds are running near the limit (within margin of error) of sata 2. Not just randomly slower but the the old spec limits. Have you tried connecting the ssd to the other sata3 header?

The only real issues I noticed on the second test were the cpu score (the bench indicated the cpu was under load which would affect scoring), and the ssd speed which appears to be a sata issue. Since it's connected to one of the 2 sata3 headers that run off an additional 9128 chip I'm thinking the mainboard drivers aren't loaded or at least not properly. There's a good chance...
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So if I understand correctly, you went from an i5 3570k with a z77 board to an i5 650 on a p55 board? Your usb thumb drive probably isn't helping the scores since it was absent from the previous system. When you switched motherboards did you do a fresh install of windows? The drivers loaded up for the old motherboard aren't the same as what the p55 board uses so there could be some performance penalty there.

You had high cpu background usage on the second test so something was running. In order to get relevant test results during benchmarks, systems need to be freshly booted and idling prior to the test. Background processes running, updates etc will throw the scores off. Changing motherboards, your gpu went from being plugged into a pcie 3.0 slot to a pcie 2.0 slot. Shouldn't be a huge difference but 2.0 has slower speeds than pcie 3.0.

Your ssd drive went from being plugged into a sata 6gb/s port to a 3gb/s port because that old motherboard doesn't support sata 6gb/s. That's liable to be a noticeable bottleneck. Your read speeds went from 485mb/s to 280mb/s on the ssd and the limits of sata2 (3gb/s) is 285mb/s so you were held back by the older sata bus. It's not that your old board damaged the components, it's an older board with out of date technology that's bottlenecking some of your components.
 
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I don't think I was very clear.

My i5 3570k was fried by my z77 board. I had the i5 650 in a system that was unused so until I determine the board I wish to build my next system around I am using that.

I have analysed my board and still believe it to be the revision with Marvell 9128 chip:

2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors (GSATA3_6, GSATA3_7) supporting up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s devices

Yes it's fresh drivers and the thumb drive has no impact on the scores if you look at the break down of what determines gaming, desktop and workstation.
 
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Oh ok, I didn't realize you were using rev2. Was only going by what was listed in userbench. You did a reinstall of windows? If not I would start there. It seems odd that your ssd speeds are running near the limit (within margin of error) of sata 2. Not just randomly slower but the the old spec limits. Have you tried connecting the ssd to the other sata3 header?

The only real issues I noticed on the second test were the cpu score (the bench indicated the cpu was under load which would affect scoring), and the ssd speed which appears to be a sata issue. Since it's connected to one of the 2 sata3 headers that run off an additional 9128 chip I'm thinking the mainboard drivers aren't loaded or at least not properly. There's a good chance a fresh install of windows and then updating the mainboard drivers will correct that, supplying the proper drivers needed for the marvell chip. There's always a possibility that drivers from your old z77 board are still kicking around in there and causing conflict.

I found some additional info that may help regarding that board. Since sata3 was more or less an addon with rev2 they had to make some compromises. When sata3 is enabled the pcie x16 slot is reduced to pcie x8 (the first slot). The board didn't natively support sata3 so they had to share some pcie lanes.
http://www.overclock.net/t/613995/gigabyte-p55a-ud3-and-usb-sata-3

This from gigabyte's site for that motherboard.
"When SATA3 / USB 3.0 (Marvell 9128 /NEC USB 3.0 Controllers) work at turbo mode, 1st PCIE x16 will work at x8 speed."

Another user was having a similar issue and someone suggested there may be an issue with the marvell controlled sata headers.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/280157-32-only-sata-p55a-motherboard

Also this.
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ssd-installed-but-no-performance-gain.2383689/

It seems to be a common problem with the marvell controller and ssd's. Driver updates might not 'fix' the issue, if you do a quick google search for that board and sata3 a ton of issues crop up on various forums. Some folks even recommend just using the sata2 intel controlled headers. Either way it doesn't appear your problems are from damaged components, rather they stem from using an old outdated motherboard. Sata3 was in its infancy then and added as an after thought sharing pcie lanes rather than properly implemented the way it is on more current boards.

Once you decide on a new board and cpu and update them to something newer with native sata3 support your issues will likely be resolved.
 
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