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Okay, so to keep a track of what was going on about this upgrade, check out this topic-you don't have to do this though.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3183872/special-mobo-upgrade.html

I'll be replacing the motherboard, Ram and the cpu. Here are the parts I chose. Could there be any kind of incompatibility or any kind of problem? Let me know if you can suggest better parts instead of these within the same price range .
 
http://www.eksenbilgisayar.com/intel-core-i5-6600k-up-to-390-ghz-lga1151-islemci--6-nesil-skylake#Details
http://www.eksenbilgisayar.com/msi-z170m-mortar-z170-lga1151-ddr4-3200oc-anakart#Details
http://www.eksenbilgisayar.com/kingston-hyperx-fury-16gb-4x4gb-ddr4-2133mhz-bellek---hx421c14fbk416#Details
 
The website is local to me, it shouldn't be a problem the parts are obvious. You can use this site when suggesting better(if there are any) parts but this is not a must neither.
 
I'll be running a sapphire nitro RX 480 8gb along with an Everest 600W PSU.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
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It doesn't appear too, too bad - but I can't find any reviews on it to confirm one way or another. Generally, if it's included with a case (which it appears to be in the first link I posted), it's likely not very good/reliable.

If it's 'ok' and has sufficient protection, at least if it dies it won't take anything else with it.
Problem is, I can't find anything to confirm whether it's 'ok' or not, so it is a little risky.
It lists 44A on the 12V rail, making it a 528W PSU, which is a good bit shy of being able to call it a "600W" PSU, which doesn't fill me with confidence.

As for the components:
The i5-6600K is a great CPU, so no concerns there.
Remember, the 'K' CPUs don't come with a stock cooler, so you need to purchase one...
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You don't have an compatibility issues with any of those components.

I'll take a look in a minute for better alternatives on that site.

An "Everest" PSU? Is that an FSP Everest? Or a brand 'everest'?

If it's an FSP, that's an old unit (Core2 days), and pretty poor even then:
Review of the 700W
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=120

If it's a brand named 'everest', I've never heard of them, and that's never a good sign.

I wouldn't run your new investment on a mediocre PSU.

As an easy(ish) / simple frame of reference: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

You want a Tier 1 or 2 unit.
 
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It's not an FSP Everest, I don't think it is. It's a brand Everest. To be more specific it's an Everest Rampage BTX-600-2. Unfortunately I've already bought this PSU. I've been running it for a while now.
 
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By any chance did the PSU come included with a case? Specifically this one:
http://www.rampage.com.tr/urunler/everest-rampage-88-real-600w-peak-650w-siyah-usb-3-0-12cm-led-fan-gaming-kasa-opzna_76/

That's the only mention of anything remotely close that I can find.

On that basis, it's an 'included' PSU, which are rarely of any worthwhile quality.

Looking at your initial thread...........are you reusing the PSU from a pre-built? (you mention a PEGATRON motherboard from a pre-built).

The BTX aspect of the name raises another question - if your case/PSU was designed for BTX motherboards, that may be an issue if using the case (as motherboards were reversed).

A BTX PSU usually has cable lengths that work for a BTX motherboard - they come out of the opposite side of the PSU itself, and the lengths are usually reversed (as a BTX motherboard is 'upside down' when compared to an ATX motherboard).

I have a feeling that this is not likely to go particularly smoothly for you.
 
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I highly doubt that BTX on the PSU stands for the BTX form factor..

No that PSU is brand new. It didn't come with a case, it was not borrowed from a pre-built PC. I bought it seperatly.

I don't really think my current motherboard is a BTX. It is a micro-ATX. And at the time I was installing the PSU to the current Pegatron PC, I didn't have any issues with the cable lenghts neither.

I am reusing the case from pre-built PC though, it's a nice case, can hold a micro-ATX motherboard.

This is the current motherboard you can check it out. It is a micro-ATX isn't it?

https://novokuznetsk.e2e4online.ru/catalog2/Komplektuyuschie/Materinskie_platy/Socket_1155/Materinskaya_plata_Pegatron_IPM6X-GS_ODM_Socket1155_iP67_4DDRIII-1333MHz_2PCI-Ex16_2PCI-Ex1_5SATAII_7.1-ch_GLAN_14USB_2.0_mATX_Bulk_Sandy_Bridge_only.html
 
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Hmmm, strange. That certainly is a mATX motherboard.

I wasn't saying things were BTX absolutely, was just throwing it out there as an additional consideration .

Found the PSU:
http://www.rampage.com.tr/urunler/everest-rampage-btx-600-2-600w-80-plus-bronze-aktif-pfc-12cm-fan-gaming-power-supply-vyszj_77/

Looks like the same PSU that is sold with the case I linked, but is also sold individually. Not a good sign.
 
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Yes you nailed the PSU, that's the one. It doesn't look so bad does it?

You didn't mention your thoughts about the 3 parts I'm about to buy. Especially the motherboard.

I will probably buy a new PSU in the future. I just wanna stick with the Everest for a while, it's so new.
 
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It doesn't appear too, too bad - but I can't find any reviews on it to confirm one way or another. Generally, if it's included with a case (which it appears to be in the first link I posted), it's likely not very good/reliable.

If it's 'ok' and has sufficient protection, at least if it dies it won't take anything else with it.
Problem is, I can't find anything to confirm whether it's 'ok' or not, so it is a little risky.
It lists 44A on the 12V rail, making it a 528W PSU, which is a good bit shy of being able to call it a "600W" PSU, which doesn't fill me with confidence.

As for the components:
The i5-6600K is a great CPU, so no concerns there.
Remember, the 'K' CPUs don't come with a stock cooler, so you need to purchase one separately.

For RAM, I'd suggest you look at a 2x8GB kit, rather than 4x4GB.
With the Z170 chipset, you can also utilize speeds above 2133MHz.
The 2x8GB 2133 MHz kit is around the same price as the 4x4:
http://www.eksenbilgisayar.com/kingston-hyperx-fury-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-2133mhz-bellek---hx421c14fbk216

Whereas the faster 2666MHz is only marginally more:
http://www.eksenbilgisayar.com/kingston-hyperx-fury-16gb2x8gb-ddr4-2666mhz-cl15-bellek---hx426c15fbk216


The motherboard is ok, and I see it's one of the cheapest boards available on the site. You'll be fine with it.
 
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I really can understand your concerns about the PSU. All I hope is that when the PSU dies, it doesn't kill anything else with it.

Why do you suggest 2x8? I thought more channels meant more performance.
 
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The Z170 chipset only has dual-channel support (not quad-channel).

2x8GB is slightly easier on the memory controller, but in the real world, you likely won't actually notice any difference between 2x8GB or 4x4GB.

Where it does make a difference, is in future upgrades. Only populating 2 of your 4 available DIMM slots, leaves 2 additional to populate in future (adding more RAM). Whether you'd even need more than 16GB while still using Skylake is debateable, but considering 2x8GB and 4x4GB at the same speeds are essentially the same price, it keeps your options open.
 
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You say Z170 only has dual-channel support, not quad channel. Then when you talk about future upgrades, you say the remaining 2 slots can be populated. Wouldn't populating those 2 slots make it quad channel?

How does this work?
 
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I must admit, I can't explain that in enough detail - a bit of reading on the basics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-channel_memory_architecture

You can certainly install 4 RAM modules, but you cannot operate those in Quad-Channel mode - not now, not in future.

What I'm suggesting is utilizing dual-channel (2 DIMMs) initially and, if you need to upgrade, you can add additional RAM. You'll still be operating in dual-channel.

"Channels" in this sense are bound by the CPU & Chipset. Only server grade equipment (and some high-end enthusiast series) actually support quad-channel.
 
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