What's the difference?

Bleubird

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Why is the EVGA gtx 1080 FTW DT $30 cheaper than the non-DT one? They have the same power plugs and RGB LEDS. So what's the big deal? The only thing I have noticed is clocks. But there's not much of a difference.
 
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All SC and FTW cards are strenuously tested in order to ensure they can meet the advertised frequency. Not all cards can, but in a lot of cases, they can still overclock fine or even great, because we also test base frequency under certain intense situations, even though under boost clock scenarios it may overclock really high or perhaps even to the same level as standard FTW. In other scenarios they may have been on the absolute edge of meeting it.

The FTW still has the benefits of RGB lighting, 10 power phases, dual BIOS, etc. And of course, it is also at a lower price than the standard FTW part.

Quote from EVGA.

Basically, with the DT, you get a fully operational FTW that comes set with reference clocks, that may or may not OC...
That is up to you, if the $30 isn't a big deal to you then go for it. If it crimps your budget get the other. Both will give you a great experience and I don't think you'd be able to tell the difference either way. It's more of a bragging rights thing between GTX 1080s.
 

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they are the same card exactly other than clock cpeeds. basically based on what evga has said, the card failed some internal test at the factory. they don't say what it failed or what exactly it means. so they clock it at stock speeds and sell it cheaper.

it will still boost like the others but may not sustain the high clocks the full ftw card will. that's all they would say about the card difference. it's a risk you have to take. never seen such a model from them so no idea how it may or may not perform. is $30 worth the risk that it may not sustain high clocks?? that's up to you. but if it helps, even a full ftw card manages less than 10 fps more than a stock FE card which is what the dt card is clocked at. so even at stock clocks you don't lose much performance anyway.

see here for a list of cards, sprecs and reviews where available. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3047729/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1000-series-megathread-faq-resources.html#17902598
 

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Is this the only part of your system that you are upgrading? Could you spend it on another part? Do you plan on overclocking it? The higher clocked card has a better chance of overclocking better the lower clocked cards may not have binned as well. I would spend the extra money on the higher clocked card.
 

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All SC and FTW cards are strenuously tested in order to ensure they can meet the advertised frequency. Not all cards can, but in a lot of cases, they can still overclock fine or even great, because we also test base frequency under certain intense situations, even though under boost clock scenarios it may overclock really high or perhaps even to the same level as standard FTW. In other scenarios they may have been on the absolute edge of meeting it.

The FTW still has the benefits of RGB lighting, 10 power phases, dual BIOS, etc. And of course, it is also at a lower price than the standard FTW part.

Quote from EVGA.

Basically, with the DT, you get a fully operational FTW that comes set with reference clocks, that may or may not OC to standard FTW levels. It's a model that pretty much failed FTW standards according to EVGA testing methods, but they'd rather sell a pot-luck card than scrap it.

I'd not waste money on it.
 
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Bleubird

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I actually just finished up building my new gaming rig. It's an update after having a cheap custom AMD build I did 3 years ago. This one blows my old one out of the water, destroys it in every way possible, anything that you can think of. It's kind of an all out build so I didn't want to have to deal with coil whine when I got a Gigabyte 1080 and I spent so much on it. So I returned it and now i'm going to go with a FTW 1080. That's weird to think the DT's are pretty much toss out FTW's EVGA is trying to make money on, so i'd rather not take my chances.
 

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And the next step in the process will be cramming a custom water cooling system into my Corsair Air 540. So I just want to get the highest clocks possible out of the box.

 

Bleubird

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Definitely going to take some planning. I am going to try to put the pump/res in the back area since they give you such a huge space. Or maybe in the front area since i'm not using the hot swap drive bays. I crammed a couple of rads and a bay res/pump into a zalman z11 plus I had for my AMD build, so this shouldn't be too much more of a challenge. I'll definitely get back to you though, i'll probably start my chain of ordering stuff and fitting and returning in November, so maybe by December it should be ready to go!
 
Well at least EVGA is up from to the FTW DT using failed FTW GPUs, wow. I don't think I'd take a chance on that either for that price. I don't recall them doing that before, these new chips must cost a lot since they loath to really discount them like they should.

Sounds like you'll be taking advantage of black Friday and gaming over the Xmas - New Years holiday. A great time for some crash gaming, lol! Don't for get the dremel, drill and files for the win, enjoy your new rig.