Motherboard change, don't want to re-install Windows XP!

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Hi folks

This is what I did.....I replaced my motherboard...but what i neglected to do was uninstall all my chipset drivers before I did that. Doh!

Now it is a dual boot system...XP and Windows 7. I've managed to work around the problem for 7 and that all working fine now. The problem is still XP though.....it just hangs on black screen. When I try and go in in Safe Mode....it boots up to the login screen but keyboard and mouse will not work, so can't login. I've tried removing my KVM, different usb keyboard, different ps2 keyboard....just won't work.

From reading lots of different threads on this subject and related....I think i need to manually edit my registry file, perhaps put standard SATA controllers in...then I might be able to get into XP and sort the rest out from there. But I've tried lots of different options and I can't find a way of doing it.....I did manage to get my XP registry open in 7, via Hirren's boot disk.....but I was at a loss as to what values to change....I think the guide I was working from was probably Windows 7, although it was just labelled as Windows, so not very helpful.....and the entries there were completely different.

Sorry to ramble on for a bit, but I don't think it's relevant what mobo is swicthed from/ to...it's still same CPU, RAM and everything else. Perhaps worth mentioningit's AMD platform FX6300 chip.

Can anybody save me? looking like my only option is to re-install XP and days of work rebuilding that system...:-( never mind losing all my work and saved games....not even sure if the updates will come down for it now?
 

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got another odd problem as well, but i doubt it's related....I have a sata pci card, which i need to connect 4 sata hard drives internally....never been a problem on the old motherboard, but on this one it seems no matter what I do the machine will not boot at all if I have any hard drives attached to it.....the only thing i haven't tried is attaching my boot SSD drive to it, but obviously i dnt want to do that....;-)

 
Sometimes it boots if you change the BIOS from AHCI to IDE mode. Once you get XP booted up and not in safe mode it should install the drivers for your keyboard controller and mouse
at a command prompt type: set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
then start device manager with devmgmt.msc
In the menu tick show hidden devices
Then you can delete everything that's not solid color (means they're not present devices from your old motherboard)
Once everything is cleaned up and running normally, update the IDE controller driver with the AHCI one and reboot, then go into the BIOS and change back to AHCI. When Windows loads it should install the device and prompt a reboot.

The SATA PCI card issue is likely because there isn't space for the option ROM to load into memory. When you have no drives installed it should say something like No drives found, ROM not installed... Some devices will need to be turned off in the Mobo's BIOS to make room if you want the card to be bootable. If not you can turn off the ROM in the card's BIOS.
 

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Thanks, but it already in IDE mode. Hesitant to switch to AHCI as ihave had major problems before, where it started wiping all my drives...:-( It's just getting it into XP is the problem....can't get in even in safe mode! i can't see any way of getting to command prompt on the XP partition either?

on the PCI card....I guess it was trying to boot from it even though it was set to boot from the motherboard connection in BIOS....but I have swapped it for another card and that has solved the problem anyway. Better card arguably so I shall leave it like that ;-)

I think the only way to do it now is to manually edit the registry file....I just don't know how to do that :-(



 
There's a thread with a number of possible solutions here:
http://reboot.pro/topic/11729-how-to-load-sata-drivers-to-offline-windows-xp-system/

If you do have to reinstall you can always slipstream Windows XP Unofficial SP4 onto your disc. It contains all the updates for XP and POSready 2009 to April of this year.
 

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Thanks again BFG. That was kind of what I was looking for...but unfortunately most of the links off there are dead....2nd post from karyonix was the kind of thing I was looking for but I can't identify the right keys and that....I'm wondering if i can ID the right key for the old Sata driver and just delete it....would that force xp to just use the generic driver on boot up, if u see what I mean?

yeah...and slipstream....tried that repeatedly over many days about 18 months ago, i just couldn't get it to work.....:-(
 

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had another thought....might be a bit backwards but if i did full install on XP, is there anyway i can just copy/ restore my directory files without having to re-install every programme and then rebuild the registry somehow....? got to be a way of fixing this....
 
Does the old motherboard still work? If so you could always reinstall that then install the drivers and (in case that won't work) also move the OS drive to a PCI card SATA before changing the motherboard again.

15 years ago I moved XP from PIIX to ICH by first installing a SCSI card and letting it install the drivers, imaging XP to SCSI then moving card and drive to new motherboard. After all drivers were installed I imaged from SCSI back to IDE. Back then I was ticked at how much easier it would've been in 9x which could've just used 16-bit DOS compatibility mode until all the drivers got installed --even imaging was easier in 9x because the only tool needed was Windows Explorer.

XP only seems to really have a problem with the storage controller changing--even going from AGP to PCIe was no problem.
 

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Yes, thanks....the old motherboard does still work....and i have considered that as an option but it is major hassle to change it all back over again, cpu as well....and i'm running low on paste and wipes :-( it really is a massive amount of work i've been trying to avoid.....might actually be quicker/ safer/ better to do full install of xp again and re-install everything else and i try restore other files from my backup.....

i wouldn't have even contemplated doing anything as advanced as what you said way back then! i think it is all down to the storage controller....what i'm trying to do at the moment is re-image the entire drive from the backup....but instead of using the the MBR files from the backup i've selected the generic XP master boot record thing, so hopefully, if i am a very lucky boy......but i doubt it! ;-) will know in abt an hour or so.....figured i needed to do that anyway as it seems when i tried to do a repair install it never finished and didn't copy everything across.....

if only i remembered to uninstall my chipset drivers b4 i swapped the board! weeks hassle so far.....i've been kicking myself all week, i did actually know that just 4got as i was all excited abt the new mummy board....:-(
 

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well, that didn't work....:-( can not be done i think. lot of the guides out there assume it's an intel based system i think which might be part of the problem....just abt ready to give up, bite some bullets and do a full re-install now :-(
 

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oh, i did try randomly deleting anything looked like it might be storage driver related from the registry- but impossible to ID exactly which was the storage controller on the old motherboard...it was an Gigabyte 78LMT-usb3 if anybody happens to know/ have it/ can easily find out which registry key i need to delete or modify?