@Mac070:
Being only a few years old, the FX series is not "VERY OUTDATED" as you claim... however the Athlon FX series is, something like 10 years old, but who in their right mind would bother posting about upgrading to decade old tech now? As i can see from your repeated blanket statement about AMD, you're clearly an Intel fanboy, and don't recognize such things as budget building "bang for your buck" builds.
@PolrYT:
The only thing you'll notice a significant performance increase from even within AMD builds, is upgrading to the PCIe 3.0, APU's support PCIe 3.0, and though they aren't "more cores" they are still quad cores, with the compute cores from the GPU side of the APU they can act in upwards of 12 cores, some tinkering required. I use my personal experience of an ASUS Crosshair V Formula Z AM3+ using an FX-8320 oc'd to 4.0Ghz with 16GB DDR3-2133 with UEFI boot and GPT partitioned OS drive, for as much of a performance gain as i can get, and it still is outperformed on Battlefield 1 by the APU build regardless of the GPU used...
My roommate had me build him a new rig, he went the DIY route instead of using ibuypower again after they installed his liquid cooler in such a manner that it kinked the tubes and the water block had a bulge and corrosion on it... but that was Intel, a first gen i5... he chose to go AMD...
He was super excited when everything came in and i put it together for him, he had played BF1 on the old setup a few times, and immediately noticed a massive performance gain over his i5 and a 770 using the new
XFX RX 480 and an
A10-7890K APU on an
ASUS Crossblade Ranger the reason his build was doing far better than mine regardless of what GPU was in use is primarily due to the PCIe 3.0 on the APU board, and the PCIe 2.0 on the AM3 board... i couldn't believe it, but that is the only thing that stands out between the two, he has four cores, i've got eight, he's at 3.5ghz, i'm oc'd to 4.0ghz, same capacity of RAM, just he's using DDR3-1600 and i'm running DDR3-2133.
CONSTANTLY, i belly ache how my laptop is faster than my pc... the laptop has an A10 elite quad core and 6GB ram, and it often performs far better than my PC, why? possibly due to the fact that i have bad luck mostly, but more due to the fact the APU's are newer and sport the fancy new bandwidths of the PCIe bus. I've tried OC'ing my PCIe bus, but it always crashes out over 110mhz and i hear that PCIe3.0 has something like 200Mhz which is a significant data throughput advantage.
the CPU bottlenecks? probably not, but the board does for sure! Definitely looking forward to the new AM4's! would LOVE it if they go up to PCIe 4.0 OMG Crossfire might be worth something then!
Oh and that's another thing...
pretty much, if you can, stick with ONE card, if you absolutely have to get two cards, be readily prepared for games to not support it and lose performance rather than gain it... resource: personal experience and
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