Why my FPS aren't stable when I downgrade the graphics?

ProPlayerGR · Sep 18, 2016

Hey guys. I have a GTX 1070 and I use MSI Afterburner to Overclock it. So my settings are:
Core Voltage: 100%
Power Limit/Temperature Limit: 100/92
Core Clock: +200
Memory Clock: +400
Fan Speed: 100%
My questions:
1. When I put these settings, my card isn't at 100% GPU utilization and it is something like 70% or so. How can I fix that?
2. In the games I have (e.g. ARK: Survival Evolved) I put the settings on epic and it plays it at 38 FPS average(On the ARK: Scorched Earth Map) and the GPU utilization is at 70% and the higher it gets is 88% but only for a moment.
When I put the settings on low the GPU utilization goes down to something like 15% and I don't know how to keep the GPU utilization stable. Please Help!
PC SPECS:
CPU: AMD FX 9370
GPU: INVIDIA ASUS GEFORCE GTX 1070 FOUNDERS EDITION
MOBO: ASROCK 990FX EXTREME9
CPU LIQUID COOLER: CORSAIR H100I
POWER SUPPLY: CORSAIR VS650
RAM: 16GB
Thanks for the help.

playingnetwork · Sep 18, 2016

This is a little bottleneck from your FX 9370 , you will have this kinda issue in CPU intensive games.

sizzling · Sep 18, 2016

Agree, probably CPU limiting, are any cores hitting 100% usage?

Also that PSU is a disaster waiting to happen. AMD recommended no less than an 850w psu when running a FX9xxx CPU, the CS range are very low quality. I'd get the psu out and replaced before it dies and potentially cause damage to other components.

ProPlayerGR · Sep 19, 2016

What do you recommend me to do that my FPS are stable when I downgrade the graphics on a game? How can I fix that?

sizzling · Sep 19, 2016

You might be better using higher detail settings, this would lower the average fps. The lower the fps the longer the CPU has between each frame. Often its not the lower fps that give a bad experience its large variations from high to low fps. By reducing the top fps and average you should get a more stable experience. Give it a go and let us know how you get on.

ProPlayerGR · Sep 19, 2016

Where do I have to go to lower the top fps?

sizzling · Sep 19, 2016

Increase the game settings, maybe up the AA or other detail. You just want to put more work on the gpu to slow it down.

Decends · Sep 19, 2016

You need a better CPU. You need something like a OC'd I5 4690k, I5 6600k, I7 4790k or I7 6700k to keep up with the Power of a GTX 1070. That FX 9370 provides somewhere between a high end i3 and low end i5 in performance.

ProPlayerGR · Sep 20, 2016

Well I have the resolution scale at 100% on ARK: Scorched Earth and the Anti-Aliasing at epic and everything else at epic. I have around 38 fps average and when I downgrade the graphics my FPS stay same and the GPU utilization is 15%. I think that the higher settings I have the higher FPS can my card get. So I was playing for 5 hours yesterday with everything on epic and when I downgraded the graphics there was no difference at the FPS. What do you mean to slow down my GPU? How can I do that?

sizzling · Sep 20, 2016

It's sound like you have done everything to put as much load on the gpu as possible by running max settings. The fact that lowering the settings does not improve fps means you have a significant CPU bottleneck. There is nothing else you can do apart from live with the performance or upgrade your CPU.

ProPlayerGR · Sep 20, 2016

Bro look. I don't think is my CPU that my FPS stay the same because before I buy the GTX 1070 I had a R7 260x OC Edition and when I was downgrading the graphics the FPS was higher, so I don't think is my CPU that my GPU utilization can't stay stable. Any ideas?

sizzling · Sep 20, 2016

Your 1070 needs data faster, reducing game detail and fps staying the same or only slightly increasing is a basic test for a cpu bottleneck. Unfortunately your cpu can be beaten in some modern games by a modern i3 and all games by an i5 and the new generation of cards are a big jump in performance and you need your CPU to keep up, your pc is only as fast as the weakest link.

ProPlayerGR · Sep 21, 2016

So all you say is that I have to get a better CPU if I want better perfomance. I just want the FPS to be higher when I downgrade the graphics on a game. I don't want better performance.

sizzling · Sep 21, 2016

What you are describing is a typical CPU bottleneck. Your GPU cannot put out any more FPS because it is waiting for information from the CPU and this does not change when you increase or decrease detail settings as the GPU still needs the same information from the CPU. FPS is reliant on both CPU and GPU, if reducing the game detail does not give you a FPS increase then its not your GPU limiting your FPS, its your CPU, this is a common test. If you monitor all 8 CPU cores some or all will be maxing out depending the game, most games wont utilise more than 4 cores so don't expect to see all 8 @ 100%, even 1 or 2 hitting 100% can cause a problem.

ProPlayerGR · Sep 21, 2016

If I buy an i7 6700k will this be fixed? Will my FPS be higher when I downgrade the graphics?

sizzling · Sep 21, 2016

Yes, it will also be higher without lowering settings. You do realise that means a new motherboard and DDR4 RAM. Have you monitored your CPU usage?

ProPlayerGR · Sep 23, 2016

How can I monitor my CPU usage? And secondly there isn't any way that I can fix the FPS to stay stable except buying a new CPU?

sizzling · Sep 23, 2016

I use HWMonitor but this might help you http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1762978/user-friendly-program-monitor-cpu-gpu-usage-game.html

I'm fairly sure it is CPU and if you prove it is the problem then you really have no option but upgrade the CPU to resolve it. With other CPU's you might have been able to overclock but the FX9xxx series have virtually no headroom for overclocking and some people end up underclocking to reduce heat.

MasterMace · Sep 23, 2016

Turn down a CPU intensive display setting, like Shadows.

ProPlayerGR · Sep 24, 2016

How can I prove that is my CPU?

sizzling · Sep 24, 2016

ProPlayerGR :

Monitor each cpu core during gaming, are some maxing out

ProPlayerGR · Sep 24, 2016

No any of the cores of my CPU are on 100%
The higher they go is 75% not 100%.
Also I think I have figured out why my FPS aren't stable. So I logged in ARK: Survival Evolved today and tried to log in a server. Well I put the graphics on low and I had 125 FPS average. I put them on medium 80FPS, high 75FPS and epic 60 FPS. I don't know of it is my server that my FPS aren't stable. I think that's it. But why my FPS aren't stable on my server and they are on other servers? P.S. With my old R7 260x I had higher FPS when I was downgrading the graphics on my server and other servers. Any idea?

Why my FPS aren't stable when I downgrade the graphics?

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