CPU for basic web browsing and online games (BTD5, Town of salem, EX)

Silvy2

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Hello
What would be a good CPU for web browsing and web browser games?
I plan to have about 10 tabs open at once, a few will be games and the rest will be you tube and DA (and whatever else. Email, amazon, social media)
My budget is $80 or less.

Thanks
 
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I'm assuming that it's 250USD, not AUD or CAD. Otherwise, my recommendations will be completely off the mark.

AMD A10-7700K (around 100 bucks give or take, 4 cores, and is a K CPU for unlocked full overclocking ability.)
Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3HP (found it on American Newegg for like 68 bucks.)
G.Skill Sniper series 2x4GB 1866mhz ram, model no. F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR (about 40 bucks, I personally run this ram kit. It's good.)
Antec VP450 (for all your power needs, I can personally vouch for how reliable these are. Usually 35-40 bucks)
Take a look around Newegg and Amazon for cheap cases. Newegg's house brand Rosewill makes some pretty decent cases, like the FBM-01 that comes completely kitted out with fans, and has good airflow for how...

amtseung

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May I recommend pooling your budget a bit and going with an AMD APU? May as well have a lightweight package that can handle the whole ordeal better and for less money than a CPU + dedicated GPU combination, unless you have a display larger than 1080p. The Richland A8 and A10 would be where I'd start looking. I personally have an older Trinity A6-5400k that I still run on a regular basis for simple/light tasks. For having lots of tabs and things going, especially when streaming 1080p60 youtube videos and gaming together, I'd personally want to have more faster ram than the average lightweight user.

What is your complete budget, and do you have existing parts that you need compatibility with?
 

Silvy2

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Complete budget is around 250
Im shooting for a cheap CPU (want 4 cores if thats possible)
4-8GB RAM
intergraded graphics will work
Display i have is 1600x900
Any case
Any PSU (as long as its not one of those cheap china ones)

I already have an 500GB WD green thats fairly new and an windows 7 home key i got in 2010.
 

amtseung

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I'm assuming that it's 250USD, not AUD or CAD. Otherwise, my recommendations will be completely off the mark.

AMD A10-7700K (around 100 bucks give or take, 4 cores, and is a K CPU for unlocked full overclocking ability.)
Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3HP (found it on American Newegg for like 68 bucks.)
G.Skill Sniper series 2x4GB 1866mhz ram, model no. F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR (about 40 bucks, I personally run this ram kit. It's good.)
Antec VP450 (for all your power needs, I can personally vouch for how reliable these are. Usually 35-40 bucks)
Take a look around Newegg and Amazon for cheap cases. Newegg's house brand Rosewill makes some pretty decent cases, like the FBM-01 that comes completely kitted out with fans, and has good airflow for how cheap it is. I have one of these as well, though I don't use it much anymore.)

I know this puts you damn near 300, but the beauty of this system is 1.) the lack of need for a dedicated gpu, but has the performance of a low- to mid-range dedicated gpu; 2.) if you want more power later, you can look up basic overclocking guides and shell out another 30-ish bucks down the line for a better and quieter cooler; 3.) that Antec PSU is actually a 550W power supply, underrated and branded as a 450W, so you can stick a graphics card in there later and still have enough juice from the psu; and 4.) it's a quad core. Keep in mind it's not a true quadcore because AMD CPU's of this architecture function more like having 2 cores hyperthreaded than 4 true cores, but nonetheless, it's a quadcore.

If it definitely has to be under 250, you can get a single 4gb stick of ram now for under 20 bucks, and get another matching stick later. RAM is only ever going to get cheaper as time goes on. Also, the FM2/FM2+ platform has no upgrade path. If later, down the line, if you want (to quote Jeremy Clarkson) MOAR POWAHHHH, you're going to need a new motherboard and CPU. The recommendation above is the best CPU for the FM2+ socket. The best motherboard for the FM2+ platform in my book is the MSI A88XM Gaming or A88X-G45 Gaming (different form factor, essentially the same board), only because I had one myself and it overclocked like a beast. It is, unfortunately, a $155 motherboard.

I will continue not to recommend anything from intel, because you gotta pay the intel tax to get anything from intel with any semblance of performance. For gaming, as of writing this reply, intel CPU's are far superior to AMD's offerings, but it comes at a cost.

Your other options at this budget would be to piece together a PC of ancient hardware from ebay offerings (my favorite), or to find a crappy HP/compaq/whatever best buy tower PC that probably has a dual core CPU, 2gb of ram, a hard drive you don't need, and a copy of windows that's been neutered.

Sorry for the wall of text. Feel free to ask if you have more questions.

Cheers!
 
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genthug

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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/zckVWX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/zckVWX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($56.95 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($43.33 @ OutletPC)
Total: $264.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-19 00:37 EDT-0400

Can take out the HDD as you said you already had one. If you're only playing browser games, the pentium will be fine as will intel HD graphics. Leaves an easy upgrade path to an i3/i5/i7 should you ever want it, space for a GPU, wattage for GPU. Comes in around $100 less than the AMD build above.
 

Silvy2

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Not going to use the intel build....4 core AMD APU will have much better advantages.
I also dont like PC part picker. Only thing it does is finds the cheapest price across 5 dealers. I want to get it all at once place.

OK here is what im going with.
I changed the ram type because i just want something generic looking and not fancy.
I also looked up all the stuff on amazon, because that's where i can get stuff (and free shipping)
Also went down to 4GB of RAM because i need this to be at 250 or lower. If 4GB is not enough i can get more later.
Found a cheap case that suits my style.

For you saying the CPU is not very upgradeable, by time I get a new PC the whole thing will be outdated anyways. Right now im running on an Pentium 4HT 3.4GHz, and yes, most of my games are not playable anymore so I have saved money over the last month to get this PC.

AMD A10-Series APU A10-7700K
https://goo.gl/1U9gVl
GIGABYTE GA-F2A88XM-D3H
https://goo.gl/ySuLDP
Kingston Value RAM 4GB 1333MHz PC3-10600 DDR3
https://goo.gl/srOybL
Antec VP-450 Power Supply
https://goo.gl/TP6Tz0
Rosewill Dual Fan Micro ATX case
https://goo.gl/6w8GGS

Where does the USB 3 plug in on the mobo? If it dont have USB 3 im ok with that but if there is a plug I cant find it....


 

genthug

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The pentium is stronger than the quad core AMD CPU, just an FYI. Not exactly many advantages for what you want it to be doing. It'll certainly do what you want it to, but the build with the pentium is cheaper... and will do exactly what you want it to.

You have my recommendation, take it or leave it. IMO, the APU is a waste of money for what you need. Either way, best of luck to you.

P.S. you can configure PCPP to show whatever seller you want to get the parts from.
 

Silvy2

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Benchmarks say otherwise, and with AMD ill be getting an 4 core. Better for multitasking. Ill also be getting an APU thats way more powerful than Intel HD graphics.
AMD gets 5199
Intel gets 3681

Yes, I am aware your another PC trool. Im good at knowing who are the fools and who knows what they are talking about.

https://goo.gl/bZfDYR
https://goo.gl/WqYDto
 

genthug

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I'm not trolling you? I go on this website constantly? Not simply to f*ck with people, I'm trying to help.

Yes, you'll be getting a *slightly* better multithreaded bench on the quad core than with the pentium, and you'll get a better iGPU. That's not saying that either of them are good in any way shape or form.

Imo, the Intel route is better because--You get DDR4 RAM in lieu of DDR3. You can upgrade to 3 different CPU lines later on in the future that will all destroy anything you can get on the platform you're looking at. You don't need anything that's actually strong. A pentium is in no way strong, nor is the APU you're looking at. But the fact of the matter is that you can upgrade the pentium build later on instead of just building an entirely new system, whereas on the AMD build you cannot.

Again, you have my recommendation, take it or leave it. But don't insult me simply because you can't see that one way you're burning money in that you can't upgrade later on and reuse the platform, but are getting a marginal increase in performance, and the other you're taking a small hit to performance so that you can reuse the platform with an i3/i5 later on in the future.

What you're using your machine for won't end up depending on CPU benchmarks. It's browser games. 2D rendering games. Nothing remotely intense.
 

Silvy2

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A 2000 difference in score is a big performance jump....Along with an APU that will blow your Intel graphics through the wall.
I also dont need DDR4, and there is not much of an difference at all between DDR3 and 4.
As I said, I dont plan to upgrade this PC until the whole thing is outdated. I dont have money to upgrade or get a new pc every few years like you guys do, nor do I need to upgrade or get a new one. By time I want an upgrade there would be no Intel CPUs sold for my board. Im only burning money I dont have if I go with your build.
Like, im still using an Pentium 4 in 2016 for god sake, and the only thing I have ever upgraded on this thing was the RAM and the HDD (because the original went bad)
This PC is going to last me at LEAST 10 years.
Open up your web browser and open 10 you tube tabs at once and tell me what in your PC gets used a lot. Apparently you say it dont depend on the CPU as much.
Just because you are on something all the time dont mean you know what you are talking about.
 

genthug

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It's a 2000 difference in score that isn't going to impact anything you do, is my point. I'm not debating which CPU is better. The A10 is. The platform the Pentium is on is better. They will certainly both do what you need them to do.
Look, if you want the machine to last 10 years, no matter which way you go you're gonna be on the struggle bus by the end of it. IMO, I'd rather be on the struggle bus that has a stop on EBay with a better processor on it than the one plunging off a cliff. Maybe that's just me, maybe I'm crazy.
If money is that much of an issue, I'd suggest you take a poke around EBay instead of trying to buy everything new. Food for thought. You'll end up saving yourself some money that way/possibly getting yourself a better processor than both of them for the same price.
 

Silvy2

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2000 will make an big difference.
I made this Pentium 4 last 10 years even though I pushed its life to the max, i'm sure this one will be 10 or more years.
We dont get stuff off Ebay, and I dont like getting old, used things. Just ask for problems.
 

genthug

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"We"?

Well, that's for you to decide. If I was on that tight of a budget, I'd find a reputable seller on EBay and grab a used one cheap. Or, if you have a nearby Microcenter (or equivalent) I would see if they've any deals (I.E. a cheap CPU + a free motherboard they're just trying to get off the shelves) that you would only get by going there. Considering you're not going to take my recommendation simply because I'm apparently a "trool", I'll at least give you that advice. On your budget, new might not be the best thing. If new is for you, then new is for you. If you ask me, I wouldn't get new if I were on that tight a budget, I'd try to get a deal from a local store or go used.
 

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Core 2 duo P8400@2.26GHz, 4 or 8GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce 9600M GS 1GB, Lubuntu 14.04 ('cause LXDE is the best), and Google Chrome. Have 30 tabs open, compiling rockbox, no lag.