New GPU lower FPS

Danny_91 · Sep 22, 2016

Just swapped my gt560 for a gtx770 (second hand). The previous owner had a waterblock fitted and has only had the card for around 6 months. After the GPU was plugged in the drivers installed and updated themselves. I was getting around 200fps on medium setting on my old GPU but now only getting 90fps.

What have I done wrong? I have ran afterburner and it is never exceeding 60degrees whilst playing a game.

RobCrezz · Sep 22, 2016

Try installing the newest drivers from nvidia.com. once installed, reboot the pc. Then open nvidia control panel, 3d settings, on the global settings set the power option to Maximum performance.

On the newer cards they will try to save power if the FPS is going high, so it clocks down instead of generating huge fps numbers unless you force it to max performance.

Danny_91 · Sep 22, 2016

RobCrezz :

I did change it to performance but not max, will give this a go after my work. I was tearing my hair out last night, bought a gpu that should be 3x better and was getting that sort of FPS. Nothing straight forward with computers.
Was also wondering if my old drivers are maybe still installed somewhere and they are conflicting after reading some posts.

RobCrezz · Sep 22, 2016

Whats the rest of your pc specs?

Danny_91 · Sep 22, 2016

Processor - amd phenom ii x4 840 3.2GHZ
Ram - 8gb ddr3 hyperx
PSI - 750w corsair
MOBO - Asus m468t le v2

I understand there could be a bottleneck as the processor is quite dated but would I not expect to get the same fps as old GPU not less?

RobCrezz · Sep 22, 2016

Yeah you still should get higher FPS.

herrwizo · Sep 22, 2016

Use GPU-Z and post image here. This could clear up a few things.

Danny_91 · Sep 22, 2016

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Danny_91 · Sep 22, 2016

They were taken whilst playing CS:GO

NickenChuggets · Sep 22, 2016

So you said the previous owner had a water block on it? Does that mean it is still on there or was the original cooler put back on it?

But first I would use DDU (display driver uninstaller) and remove all drivers with that. Using DDU is a MUST!
Then reinstall driver for gtx 770
If that doesn't work I would check to make sure the thermal paste was applied to whatever cooler is currently on it which means you must remove the cooler and then reapply thermal paste to rule out thermal throttling.

jeffredo · Sep 22, 2016

Try cleaning out the drivers with DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller). Then reinstall them and make sure you have the exact same 3D settings that you had previously in the Nvidia Control Panel. Also, make sure your games haven't auto-detected the stronger video card and applied better (and more demanding) quality settings.

http://www.wagnardmobile.com/?q=node/103

Danny_91 · Sep 22, 2016

I have ran DDU and disabled the likes of v sync and power saving mode and still 80-120 fps on med to low settings. I have also uninstalled the Nvidia HD drivers as this was a potential fix but still nothing. I am ready to flip.

Danny_91 · Sep 22, 2016

Forgot to say I watched the previous owner put thermal paste on the stock cooler.

NickenChuggets · Sep 22, 2016

As you mentioned before it could be that the gt560 is better suited for the phenom ii x4 840 which cant keep up with the new 770. Did anything else in your setup change like new monitors or resolution after you added the 770?

Danny_91 · Sep 22, 2016

Starting to think that, already been looking at the FX6300. Can pick one up for £85 new, the mrs is going to kill me lol.

NickenChuggets · Sep 22, 2016

Just make sure that processor is compatible with your setup. Your motherboard is AM3 while the FX6300 CPU is AM3+. "The two of them are not backwards compatible. You can use AM3 CPU in AM3+ socket, not the other way around."

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1646855/am3-cpu-am3-socket.html

Danny_91 · Sep 22, 2016

NickenChuggets :

Well thats shit lol. I did read that it was compatible, the CPU I have is probably one of the best for my MOBO, might just put my old GPU back in and save for mobo and cpu

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NickenChuggets · Sep 22, 2016

Yeah I would pop the old card in and save up. You don't need to save up for anything crazy either if CS:GO is the game you mainly play. That 770 could also just be a dud.

RobCrezz · Sep 23, 2016

Thats not right, the GPU is barely getting any load. Check your CPU isnt overheating and causing a huge bottleneck. Even with your cpu you should still be getting high load in CS:GO.

herrwizo · Sep 23, 2016

Can you describe how you took the screenshots? If you simply alt-tabbed out to desktop and then took them, no wonder they show 1% since the game is not "active" anymore, but sent to background instead. The best would be to use Open HW Monitor and record the data while running the game, it can show plotted graphical representation over time.

The screenshot that interested me the most was the one which you did not take (sorry, forgot to mention): I needed the first tab "Graphics card". I wanted to see your PCI-E speed multiplier. Some boards and BIOS-es have issues and can set it to 2x, 4x or similar.... and it should be 16x.

Faux_Grey · Sep 23, 2016

Can you post a screenshot from the first page of GPU-z?

Would also make sure windows is not in power saving mode.

What is your CPU usage looking like when you're playing a game?

Danny_91 · Sep 23, 2016

I have checked my GPU and CPU output whilst playing CS:GO my GPU = 30% and CPU = 99%
I am positive that is the issue, I have a new MOBO and I5-6500 in my Scan basket but finding it difficult to hit the buy button lol

Danny_91 · Sep 23, 2016

Faux_Grey :

rcald2000 · Sep 23, 2016

+Danny_91 Have you determined the CPU temps while under load, as RobCrezz suggested earlier? HWMonitor is a great utility to determine this ( http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/hwmonitor/hwmonitor_1.29.exe ).

Danny_91 · Sep 23, 2016

rcald2000 :

CPU sitting at 40degrees whilst playing at high settings. Funny thing is that my FPS doesnt change much from Low to High settings.

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