How do I fix stuttering issues in all of my games?

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My setup:

- Amd Phenom II x4 965 BE
- Msi 970 Gaming Motherboard
- Msi GTX 1060 6gb
- Neptwin V2 Cooler
- Corsair TX650
- DDR3 8gb ram

Greetings. So this is my first time building a supposedly gaming PC (Tech level: Amateur), so there may be information that I'm missing or not understanding in regards to this predicament. And honestly, I cannot tell where this stuttering problem is originating from. All of the games I've played so far we're stuttering all the time, whether if it's set at low or ultra settings. I've reinstalled all of my drivers from the motherboard and graphics card but guess what, nothing. I thoroughly searched the net for solutions and most of them that came up we're about enabling the V-Sync and sometimes Anti-aliasing.

Which I did in the Nvidia Control Panel. An unstable 20-60 fps in Skyrim (with mods), whether if V-Sync is on or not. Also the CPU's temperature averages a 70°c, 40°c being the minimum, and never going above 80°c. Tried this with League of Legends. Strange enough, even though the V-Sync is on, both in the Nvidia control panel and in the game itself, the fps also weren't stable, jumping from 60-120 fps, but still stutters. Did this in Dragon Nest, still stutters.

Please don't hold back and point out maybe something so obvious that an amateur like me wouldn't notice. Thank you in advance.
 
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I opened League of Legends ... the FPS ranged from a very unstable 50 - 250 fps
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This just further convince me that your CPU is severely bottlenecking the GPU:

GIGABYTE-GTX-950-WINDFORCE-OC-Benchmarks-12.png

That's with a slightly overclocked i5 4670k@3.8Ghz with 16GB of DDR3 2400Mhz, and I think we can skip the conversation about how a GTX 1060 should be vastly superior to a GTX 950.

On the side note, I switched my main hard drive to another, which of course included installing an OS, reinstalling the drivers and so forth. And to my surprise, I opened League of Legends to see for myself whether the stuttering still persisted, and sure enough, there we're no...
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Because your CPU is severely underpowered compare to the GTX1060 and is bottlenecking it.
Minimum cost and hassle solution? Upgrade to AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz ($135.99 @ Amazon). It shouldn't botttleneck the GTX 1060 as badly as the Phenom II.

The more expensive, more hassle but much better gaming performance route:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($177.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $242.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-23 17:56 EDT-0400

Reuse the DDR3, PSU, GPU, Cooler, case to get a much better performance gaming build. At the cost of reinstalling Windows (OEM license would not be preserve with MB change, if you built the system with a OEM Windows license, you may need to buy a new Windows license if you want to go down this route).

In case you're wondering what's the cost to move completely to latest gen Intel Skylake:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($198.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($34.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $303.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-23 18:14 EDT-0400
 
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I guess I could spend a little more for that 8320, and maybe a sliver chance of considering that 8370, but is it certain that the one causing the problem here is the CPU? I mean, would it perhaps be possible that I'm missing some configurations that needs toggling? Assuming that there are, would there be some kind of way or approach that I can find out the culprit? Consider this as what seems like a last resort before seriously considering to change the CPU.

I mean, even the browser games such as Agar.io, Slither.io, and Diep.io are lagging when it was all running smoothly before I changed my rig. Which included a 9400 GT, 965 BE, and an Asus M4A88T-M.

On the side note, I switched my main hard drive to another, which of course included installing an OS, reinstalling the drivers and so forth. And to my surprise, I opened League of Legends to see for myself whether the stuttering still persisted, and sure enough, there we're no stuttering's. Though the FPS ranged from a very unstable 50 - 250 fps with V-Sync disabled, both in the Nvida settings and the game itself.

Any thoughts will be appreciated, thanks in advance.
 
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I opened League of Legends ... the FPS ranged from a very unstable 50 - 250 fps
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This just further convince me that your CPU is severely bottlenecking the GPU:

GIGABYTE-GTX-950-WINDFORCE-OC-Benchmarks-12.png

That's with a slightly overclocked i5 4670k@3.8Ghz with 16GB of DDR3 2400Mhz, and I think we can skip the conversation about how a GTX 1060 should be vastly superior to a GTX 950.

On the side note, I switched my main hard drive to another, which of course included installing an OS, reinstalling the drivers and so forth. And to my surprise, I opened League of Legends to see for myself whether the stuttering still persisted, and sure enough, there we're no stuttering's.
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What do you mean by "switched my main hard drive to another"? Swapped that boot HDD with LOL and etc. to a different PC? Installing a 2nd Windows on a 2nd HDD? If so, where was the LOL installation in both case? Were they running the same LOL installation or did you install a separate copy of LOL when you install the 2nd Windows?

I'm seeing you using "lagging" and "stuttering" interchangeably... which they aren't...

If it's lagging: mouse, keyboard still work during the "stuttering" then issue is potentially with the Killer LAN network chip; it's finicky and some people have had to force Windows to accept the driver for a different Realtek chip to use with that Killer LAN chip (which essentially disable all Killer software "features") to resolve their networked gaming issues.

If it's truly stuttering: i.e. choppy frame rate, then it's likely a CPU/memory bottlenecking issue causing moments of low minimum fps regardless of avg fps.

V-sync, as I understand, is meant to prevent "screen tearing", not stuttering. It place a limit on your GPU rendering capabilities to match that of your monitor vertical refresh rate capabilities i.e. 60hz screen will limit the GPU to render only 60fps to prevent screen tearing (a frame was being rendered while the monitor refresh itself resulting in a half-finished frame being presented).

Another potential cause is: a loose or damaged SATA cable, which can result in faulty data transfer that in turn causing momentarily 100% HDD utilization that manifested in a period of temporary freezing i.e. jumpy mouse movement, skipping frames etc...

If the stuttering only happen after a while, then another potential cause is overheated VRM. There was an article here on Toms that was reviewing the new stock cooler from AMD, called Wraith, but also touched on the effect of tower cooler (like that Neptwin) could have on cooling of the VRM (it's the thing that deliver power to your CPU); where the tower cooling solution left the VRM of the MSI 970 Gaming MB at 100+ degrees Celsius with a FX-8370, the top-down Wraith left the VRM ~20 degrees cooler. The effect of overheated VRM is CPU throttling which would further amplify the bottleneck issue.
 
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