need help deciding my cpu needs

miken125

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Alright, ive been dabeting this for awhile now. Im stuck on what cpu to actually buy. Ive only ever used i7's in laptops btw. But i want to step up to my first pc build. Itll mostly be everyday use, mostly games from blizzard/older titles nothing triple A. Itll just be 1080p, i will have a decated gpu, and mo video editing or rendering. Would just like to know if a 8350 is even fine OR maybe thats not wat i would need at all.
 
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The i3 6100 has 2 cores with 4 threads due to hyperthreading. It has a rated TDP of 51w, and generally matches or beats the FX-83xx CPUs in gaming, because most games rely heavily on 1-2 threads and can lightly utilize a few more. Each core on the i3 is close to twice as fast as the cores on an FX CPU. Although an FX-8350 has more total throughput, the i3 is faster in most desktop use cases by virtue of having much faster cores. This is generally considered the cheapest gaming CPU that won't have serious compromises.

The i5 6500 is a 4-core CPU without hyperthreading. Single-core performance is about the same as the i3, but it pulls ahead in multithreaded tasks, even beating the 8-core FX-8350. TDP is 65w. This is usually considered...

LinuxNazi

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A tad bit more info would be fantastic. Anyways if you are looking for something around $150, I would recommend grabbing an i5. (For about $180.) You can probably save $30 if you grab it from micro-center, as they have been giving a $30 off or rebate or such, if you buy it with a compatible motherboard. I doubt they will end the incentive to buy from them soon.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/451887/Core_i5-6500_32GHz_LGA_1151_Boxed_Processor if you want the microcenter thing. Though I would go shopping around for deals (pcpartpicker maybe) as they don't offer free or this/that that perhaps newegg might offer. (If you live near a microcenter like me, then that is good I suppose.)
 
I'd recommend an i5. There isn't any reason to purchase the fx8350 due to it's age, also, Blizzard games prefer Intel Cpu's. The slightly older Intel 4460 as someone mentioned would be a great fit. Could spend a little more and go with a Skylake i5 if the slight extra cost isn't a bother, but the extra performance isn't quite worth the price difference.
 
Older games aren't generally as multithreaded as current AAA games so faster stronger cores would likely be more beneficial. If you're not doing video editing or rendering then no real need for an i7, and i5 or even a skylake i3 would work pretty well. Not sure there's any real reason to recommend 4th gen at this point, 6th gen skylake has been out long enough and prices have stabilized offering a newer platform and ddr4 ram moving forward. The i3 6100 is cheaper than and fx 8350, consumes less power, no need for an aftermarket cooler and games better.

The i3 6100 is $110, the fx 8350 is $150.
 

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I just went from a 8350 overclocked to a i5 6600k as the 8350 was bottlenecking my gtx 1070 it also bottlenecked my gtx 970 but not as bad.
So go i5, everything runs much quicker on it.
 

miken125

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I dont care so much for the age of amds stuff. Thank you all for your imput. I guess wat i really also wanna know is. Why so many cpu's and if yall could help me better understand like a catagory. Like wat each class or group of cpus is designed or built for there jobs at hand i guesss you coukd say. Like besides intel also being so far along. And just saying "well get an i5". I hope im not confusing anyone.
 

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i3 is a dual core, it can game but can limit fps in cpu intensive games
i5 is a 4 core, it keep up with i7 in gaming so thats what most people get
i7 is a 4 core with 4 threads (kinda like a 8 core) itcan game and yields the highest fps if the games can use hyperthreading which most dont.

the i5's newest line is the 6000 series, i just bought a 6600k, the K at the end of 6600 means it can be overclocked.
 
The i3 6100 has 2 cores with 4 threads due to hyperthreading. It has a rated TDP of 51w, and generally matches or beats the FX-83xx CPUs in gaming, because most games rely heavily on 1-2 threads and can lightly utilize a few more. Each core on the i3 is close to twice as fast as the cores on an FX CPU. Although an FX-8350 has more total throughput, the i3 is faster in most desktop use cases by virtue of having much faster cores. This is generally considered the cheapest gaming CPU that won't have serious compromises.

The i5 6500 is a 4-core CPU without hyperthreading. Single-core performance is about the same as the i3, but it pulls ahead in multithreaded tasks, even beating the 8-core FX-8350. TDP is 65w. This is usually considered the best value gaming CPU, as it generally keeps even very CPU-hungry AAA titles like GTA V and Battlefield about 60fps, where an i3 might show some dips.

Both of these CPUs are 6th generation Core designs built on Intel's power-sipping 14nm process introduced in 2015 and fits into Intel's socket 1151, which is new and will be receiving at least 2 more generations of CPUs, and has modern features like USB 3.1, M.2, and PCIe 3.0, to name a few.

The FX-8350 is an 8-core CPU. The FX is build on Gobal Foundries' much older 32nm process (introduced in 2010), and has really high power consumption, generally exceeding 125w under load, despite being out-performed by the 65w i5 in basically everything. Its per-core performance was low even in 2012-terms, when it was generally outperformed in nearly every real-world task by the 2nd generation Intel i5 CPUs. It runs on the ancient and basically discontinued AM3+ platform which will receive no more CPUs, and hasn't received a new design since 2012.

Although it may sound like I'm disparaging the FX CPU, these are the facts. They're not poor performers, but neither are they faster than the cheaper and less power hungry i3's in most things people do. They still do alright in modern tasks, and can even make sense as an upgrade for someone with a much older AM3 CPU and a motherboard that can take the FX. The only time I would recommend building an FX-based system from scratch today is for a VM box, because VMs don't like sharing cores, even if those cores are twice as fast.
 
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