SOLIDWORKS i5 vs i7 (& other hardware questions)

Coltor

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One main question many other ones if anybody cares to look at 'em:

I am going to build a PC for someone to use with SOLIDWORKS, other CAD/rendering programs and some gaming.
Simulations are very important to him.
I need to know if hyper-threading is helpful in SOLIDWORKS (especially in simulations) and if so, how much.
The budget is tight enough that using an i7 would mean taking away ~$150 GPU and RAM.


Bonus:
How does the AMD fx-8xxx series fare? Are they worth considering for SOLIDWORKS?

Double Bonus:
This PC is going to be used at home for SOLIDWORKS classwork. I was intending to use a Nvidia GTX card (probably a 1060), this means no ECC/buffering. Is ECC/buffering worth having, even if the system RAM is unbuffered/non-ECC?

Triple Bonus:
Are AMD GPUs worth considering, do they perform well in SOLIDWORKS? Supposedly they perform significantly better in OpenGL than Nvidia. I generally prefer Nvidia (I've used lots of both). It always seemed to me that Nvidia/CUDA was more common and is nearly a defacto industry standard (am I wrong?). I believe the use of other renderers might be a big deal and many of them are CUDA exclusive so for AMD to be worth it it would have to be a very big price and/or performance advantage.

Extreme Bonus:
Do SSDs speed up render/sim times?
Is 32Gb of RAM going to be a big performance boost from 16?
Is 1440p worth it? (It was a big improvement over 1080 for me in various programs like AutoCAD/3dsMax/Cinema4d)


Trying to keep it under $1000 so well see what changes.
Likely build:
6600k or 6700k
16gb RAM
GTX 1060 6GB
2TB or 3TB Hitachi
1080p screen
 
Solution
He really doesnt need to be tech savvy to use an SSD. An SSD can really help the loading time in the applications that he uses making work alot faster. Also the power supply that you mentioned isnt good. If he needs the monitor in $1000, then:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($294.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($46.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard...
An i7 6700 will be better than an i5 6600k for this work, also it will require a cheaper motherboard and you wont have to buy an aftermarket cooler.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($294.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($56.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB FTW+ GAMING Video Card ($259.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $962.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-24 04:47 EDT-0400

What is your budget for the Monitor? An IPS screen is important for good colours. What size screen do you want? Do you want 1080p or 1440p?
 

Coltor

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The guy isn't particularly tech savvy and after talking with him we decided to skip SSDs for simplicity.

This is what I've got so far ($950 incl. monitor & tax & shipping):
(B&H) https://goo.gl/0YzpDG
https://amzn.com/w/2WGITLSRG99GF

My current part list:
$103 22" AOC 1080p IPS Monitor
$279 MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X 6G
$305 i7 6700
$62 MSI B150 Bazooka Plus uATX
$67 2x 8GB Ballistix 2400mhz
$60 HGST 3TB
$45 Sentey 725w 80+
~$30 tax

Switching from the 6600k to the 6700 and Asrock pro4s to an Gigabyte GA-H110m-A motherboard the price comes down to $930. Using an MSI B150m Bazooka Plus brings it back to $950.

Any overclocking that would be done would be done by me so the k series stuff is of limited value unless he becomes more tech savvy or has me come along and OC later (other than resale value I guess).





 
He really doesnt need to be tech savvy to use an SSD. An SSD can really help the loading time in the applications that he uses making work alot faster. Also the power supply that you mentioned isnt good. If he needs the monitor in $1000, then:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($294.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($46.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GAMING Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 23.0" 60Hz Monitor ($109.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $997.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-24 06:14 EDT-0400

 
Solution

Coltor

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I forgot to mention he already has a full tower case & fans that a friend gave him.
I swapped out the MSI B150 for the GA-H110
swapped the Sentey for a Corsair CX600
Swapped the 2x 8GB for a 1x 16Gb since there's only 2 DIMM slots and upgrading may be useful
Added the Trion 150 250GB

That comes out to $986 after tax etc.

Amazon:
https://amzn.com/w/2WGITLSRG99GF

B&H:
https://goo.gl/iKo0Zi