Do I need a Core i7 6700K?

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I have a 4770K and it's not really doing all that good. It's over 3 years old now. I like to upgrade my CPU every 3 years. Games run slow as crap. I like playing the latest AAA titles and I can't really seem to run them on this CPU that good. I have $1000 to spend on upgrading this PC. I don't really know all that much about computers other than what the latest CPU's are. I keep up with the latest CPU's. Well there's a Best buy a few minutes down the road. I'll go buy the Core i7 6700K and whatever other parts I need if I need them. I just want another opinion. I have a 4K TV hooked up to the computer but I play it at 1920x1080.

My computer is here if you want to look at it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229507 That's where I bought it from.

Other things besides games are slow too. It takes forever to start up and it takes a long time to load a program after I get to the desktop. I upgraded to Windows 10 for free too.

Suggest things I can go pick up from best buy preferably so I can get them now. I know I can get better deals online but waiting is something I am not good at. I want it now. The one in Charleston WV. I'll let you know how things go.
 
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You don't need to upgrade the CPU, unless you're doing a lot of multitasking or running CPU intensive programs. You're problem sounds more like a performance issue caused by temps, too many unnecessary apps running, or an HDD that is getting close to being full. I would start by checking the temps of the CPU and GPU, then uninstalling any unnecessary programs and limit what runs at start up. Do a thorough virus scan and cleanup of your system next. If anything needs to be upgraded, I would start with the GPU and power supply.
 
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The 6700K is only a few percent faster than the 4770K. Progress in CPU design has slowed to a crawl, and you'd be hard pressed to notice a difference between even an older i7 2600K and a 6700K without a benchmark showing you numbers.

For gaming, your GPU is what determines how many frames per second you get at a given graphical setting, so long as your CPU is adequately fast (which it is). A Radeon 260X is a very low-end card by today's standards, and I'm certain you'd benefit by replacing it with something better.

For loading, that's mostly your hard drive's job. Since ~2008, PCs have largely started using solid state drives (SSDs) because they're hundreds of times faster than old spinning disk HDDs like your PC has. Your loading times would benefit greatly from migrating your Windows installation over to a SSD.

It's also possible that your computer has become full of malware junkware since you bought it, which can fill up your RAM and use CPU cycles. The solution for this isn't to buy a new PC, but rather to run some programs such as adwcleaner and Malwarebytes, or to wipe your hard drive clean and reinstall Windows.

A good, modern GPU will set you back $200-250. A decently sized SSD costs in the range of $70-90. Malwarebytes and adwcleaner are free.
 
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The lady didn't seem to know much about computers but she told me they have Nvidia GTX 1070, GTX 1080, and a samsung 250GB SSD. The 1080 is 699 and the 1070 is 449 and the SSD is 103. So I have $1000 to spend. I think I'll get the Nvidia GTX 1080 and the SSD unless the GTX 1070 is good enough... But just good enough isn't what I'd like. I want spectacular. I want something that's going to last too.
 
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The 1070 and 1080 are both priced about as they perform. The 1070 is a good card for maintaining a perfect 60fps if you have a 1440P monitor, while the 1080 is the card you want if you have a 4K-resolution screen. Both are massive overkill for 1920x1080.

Those prices are marked up a bit over what you can do online, but not as bad as I'd have expected from Best Buy.
 
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I have 4K but I've only been able to play 1080p. So I'll get the GTX 1080 and the SSD. Also I'll go ahead and get a new power supply. I found another local computer store that has the GTX 1080 superclocked for only $599. I asked them why it's so cheap and they said it was where a customer returned it. They only have that one left. So I have to hurry and get it. They have a Corsair TX750 V2 power supply for $69.99 new. Is that one any good? Also they have that Samsung 250GB SSD for $94.99.
 
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I can't advise you on power supply brands, but your i7 has an 84w TDP and the GTX 1080 has a 180w TDP, so a high quality 350w unit could in theory power your PC. I wouldn't suggest getting one smaller than ~400-450w, but once you're above that, the quality of the components inside the power supply become more important than the maximum wattage it can supply.
 
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I spent $870 including taxes and here's what I got. I got a 3TB HDD, a Samsung 250GB EVO SSD, 16GB 2400MHz DDR3 RAM, a GTX 1080 Superclocked graphics card, and a TX750 V2 power supply. I didn't know if I needed the extra RAM but I decided to get it since it wasn't that much anyway. I'm just taking the old RAM out and not using it. I am excited to try this all out. I'm going to do a fresh install of Windows 10. I just got the power supply in my case and I'm getting ready to put the drives in. Next I'm putting in the new GTX 1080 and then everything else. I'll let you know how it does.

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Are you guys sure I don't need a Core i7 6700K? I just got everything installed. Every time I try to play Crysis 3 it's like a slideshow. I'm playing on the High preset at 1080p. I can't get this game to play very well at all. What's wrong with it? I loaded up fraps and I'm not getting very many FPS. Only about 10 FPS. What the heck is going on!? It's like everytime I try to do something something weird has to happen. It's playing worse than it did before.
 
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Once upon a long ass time ago, I thought my PC was dying, and I learned the hard way about defragging hard drives. After 5 consecutive defragging passes, as well as cleaning out my disk and registry, I got all my fpses back.

Don't ever defrag an SSD unless you want to kill it. You can use Window's built in disk cleaner utility, which will automatically use the right optimization method for different drive types. If you're running the game off of the SSD, maybe it's faulty? Or maybe the game file is corrupted?

Something is very wrong if Crysis 3 runs like a slideshow with a GTX1080, regardless of resolution. Driver conflict? Background programs? Plugs and things not fully seated? Do the JSON files (or ini files or whatever) need to be tweaked to fully utilize your new hardware? I don't know jack squat about the crytek engine.

Edit: New info arrived while I was typing this. Now I feel like an idiot, but oh well, I'll just leave this here...
 
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There was a big wall of dust under the fan blades. I mean it was filled with dust. I'm not sure how the fan could still spin. Now I get 30c when I'm not doing anything and about 60c when I try to play Crysis 3 and I say try to play because I still only get 10 fps in the game. Task manager says my CPU is running at 3.7GHz.
 
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Right now I'm trying to run GTA V at 4K. Settings are all on high or very high. MSAA is off. FXAA is on. I get 7 to 9FPS. The advanced graphics are all off. CPU usage varies from 8% to 12%. GPU usage is 99% to 100% all the time.
 
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Your CPU isn't being used at all. 8% usage is typically seen when a processor is idling. Have you tried clearing CMOS and/or resetting bios to factory settings? Maybe your C-states are borked, and the CPU won't come out of idle. Maybe your previous dangerously high CPU temps fried something.

I'm guessing now.
 
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It looks like something is wrong with my graphics card. I looked at the specifications on the card and I should get core speeds of 1708 /
1847MHz. I'm only getting 253MHz at all times according to MSI afterburner.
 
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