Motherboard and processor compatibility check.

Harrygc00 · Sep 25, 2016

Will the this https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Black-Vishera-Clock-Turbo/dp/B009O7YUF6/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=2QGFNAAZ3GTN5SJD4EV1 work with https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-970-Gaming-AMD-Motherboard/dp/B00LUY72F6/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=GD9Z85MB485YGGB4VZ3F this? Many thanks

Isokolon · Sep 25, 2016

Would work.
But you'd be happier with a i3-6xxx + LGA1151 board as the FX is an old, dead platform that only sounds good.on paper

R_1 · Sep 25, 2016

yes will work. will support processors up to 200W. the 8350 is a 125W chip.
what Isokolon said.

Ebrahim_Geranpaye · Sep 25, 2016

Yes it does. For Other compatibility check Look for socket type which these two both work on AM3+

Harrygc00 · Sep 25, 2016

Isokolon :

So any i3 processor with a LGA1151 motherboard would be better and work better? (for gaming mainly)

R_1 · Sep 25, 2016

Harrygc00 :

absolutely, games don't use more than 2/4 cores in any case. for gaming get the best cores. because the other cores will rarely/not be used for gaming.
2/4 really good cores are better than 6/8 so so cores for gaming.
the i3 being the really good cores.

Harrygc00 · Sep 25, 2016

R_1 :

This may be a bit of a dumb question, but as I am new to this whole thing you'll have to bear with me, because it's an i3 does that mean that it won't perform as well as a i5 or i7? Or does that not matter? Thank you

Harrygc00 · Sep 25, 2016

R_1 :

This may be a bit of a dumb question, but as I am new to this whole thing you'll have to bear with me, because it's an i3 does that mean that it won't perform as well as a i5 or i7? Or does that not matter? Thank you

R_1 · Sep 25, 2016

I will oversimplify for you
an i3 is half of an i5, the i3 has hyper-threading - 2 actual cores, 4 threads
an i5 is an i7 without hyper-threading - 4 actual cores, 4 threads
an i7 is the whole magilla, 4 cores with hyper-threading- 4 actual cores, 8 threads
hyper-threading is not as fast as an actual core but there is a marked benefit

Harrygc00 · Sep 25, 2016

R_1 :

Right, so would it be worth buying a i5 instead of an i3 or is there not much difference?

R_1 · Sep 25, 2016

depends on the price.
the performance difference between an i3-6100 and an i5-6500 is minimal if you can get the 6500 for a minimal price difference then by all means do. but if the price is too much you are not paying for performance but a name.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6500-vs-Intel-Core-i3-6100/3513vs3511
i5-6500 is 204 at newegg. i3 6100 is 120 - the 80 bucks is not worth it to me and my budget for the 16-20% performance

Isokolon · Sep 25, 2016

Depends highly on the game.
In Benchmarks the difference between an i3-6300 and an i7-6700k is sometimes less than 10 fps, sometiems much more. Games that use 1-2 cores the i3 is sometimes Even better than a weaker i5.
For games that use more cores, like everything that uses Frostbite or cryengine engine an i5/i7 will outperform an i3

Harrygc00 · Sep 25, 2016

Isokolon :

So if I wanted to run AAA games well I would be better off getting a decent i5 as the majority of these games use the cores? Is this correct?

R_1 · Sep 25, 2016

yes
as I said earlier in the thread get the best cores you can for gaming.
I said I would not due to my budget, your is different but the advice of getting the best cores is true.
4 actual cores is better than 2 cores with HT.

Isokolon · Sep 25, 2016

Generally. But the best i3 usually still outperforms the weakest i5 due to better single core performance.
But with a 6500/6600 - yes it's better for most AAAs.
But it depends on your budget tbh.

R_1 · Sep 25, 2016

I was referring to the 6xxx series throughout the thread
6100 vs 6500

Harrygc00 · Sep 25, 2016

R_1 :

Would a i5 4690k be a good choice? And is there anything like that, just slightly cheaper, as it's quite expensive.

Would the 6xxx series be worth looking at?

Sorry about the delay in replying to this, I thought I had email notifications enabled but I didn't.

R_1 · Sep 25, 2016

the 6600k is the replacement for the 4690k. 5-10% increase in performance.
flip a coin between those. which can you get cheapest? (motherboard, ram and chip)

Gone are the days when the old system was half as fast as the new one. my first CPU was 166mhz, my second was 450mhz, my 955 black (7 yrs old) is still a decent performer, but my next chip will not be even 80% faster or 60% than what I have now (at same price @125$) it will be more efficient but not twice the speed.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-6100-vs-AMD-Phenom-II-X4-955/3511vs2935

Isokolon · Sep 25, 2016

The Intel 4000series is generally not rly worth it for a new build unless you already own a lga1150 Mainboard or a fancy Large RAM kit.
1151/6th Gen. Intel is the Way to go

@R1: gamingwise an i5 is about twice as fast as a 955BE.
Upgraded a month ago, drastic difference!!

Harrygc00 · Sep 25, 2016

R_1 :

So I would be better off buying a older i5 than a new one as there isn't that much performance difference? Would a i5 6600 work good with AAA games or is the £170 not worth it? Thanks for all the help and info guys, btw.

Harrygc00 · Sep 25, 2016

Isokolon :

Ah I didn't see this (was replying to R_1's post) so a 6xxx series would be a good choice?

R_1 · Sep 25, 2016

we all agree the 6xxx is the current chip.
which can be had for the least money?
the performance difference is @ 10% if the older platform (RAM CPU and Mobo) is 30% cheaper then that would be the way to go. IMHO
if the price savings is 8% get the newer one.

Harrygc00 · Sep 25, 2016

R_1 :

On Amazon and Newegg the i5 6xxx's are between £160-£200, so that's the CPU that I should try to get? Would the i5 6500 be a good one to get? Money and performance wise? (£180-ish)

Isokolon · Sep 25, 2016

Usually the Chips cost around the same, the boards are cheaper for older tech but don't have the features newer boards bring (M.2 support, more USB ports, USB 3.1, HDMI 2, and if course DDR4 support for DDR 4-RAM)
So if it ain't SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper I advise against going for outdated tech especially since there was the change from DDR 3 to 4

Harrygc00 · Sep 25, 2016

Isokolon :

So spending £100 on a motherboard is ok? As long as it has the same socket as the processor, right?

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