Lag Spikes With My PC - New GTX 1070

theRTT

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Hello, I have opened a thread a while ago addressing the issue I'm having with my PC. Here is the link: http://

Gaining more information about my issue in my last thread, I opened this new thread because I can now give clearer information about the problem.

So here is the problem: In all games I play I am having lag spikes. In my last thread I said when I had the lag spikes, there where no frame drops. Now I find out, there are frame drops causing the lag spikes. So now I know why I have lag spikes, but I don't know what is causing it.

Here are some examples:


  • GTA V: In GTA V I have turned V-Sync on. When I drive in the city I have a solid 60 FPS. When I'm on a road (this can be anywhere) and I turn around on the same road and look the other way, I have suddenly a 10 FPS frame drop and it stays around 50 FPS until I am at a spot where the FPS is 60 again. It's weird that when you're standing on a spot and when you look one way, you have 60 FPS, and when you look the other way, your FPS drops with 10 or so. This seems happen on a lot of parts of the map. So in GTA V, random low FPS when driving or being and on specific places and looking to specific directions. Also when there is a lot of police the FPS drops to around 50 sometimes. I know it is a really heavy game, so is it not optimised well? Or is it my PC. I found out that a lot of people are heaving this issue. Settings are on Very High. MSAA x2 and FXAA turned ON. All advanced graphics on max. (I can make screenshots if needed).


  • Star Wars Battlefront: So in this game I'm having a really good FPS, it stays around the 85-140 FPS. But sometimes I have frame drops which causes lag spikes, they really seem to occur out of nowhere. I also have lag spikes when I die. That seems to be a pretty heavy proces? Settings are on Ultra


  • Battlefield 4: I also have V-sync turned on in this game. Most of the time I have a solid 60 FPS, but on some places and in some situations I have a frame drop, or the FPS stays a little bit lower around 55 FPS. On some parts of some maps the FPS stays around 55 FPS. And sometimes I have a random lag spike out of nowhere. Than the FPS goes from 60 to 59/55 or so. Just for a mili second. Settings are on Ultra.


  • Minecraft: Yes, even minecraft. The FPS is high. I didn't test this in single player yet. But in a online game I also noticed some lag spikes.. Even in Minecraft, this concernes me the most.

So here is a list of what I checked:

-My temperature of my GPU and CPU seem fine. (GPU Usage: around 80 to 99%.
GPU Temperature: 66℃ - 71℃. CPU Usage: around 80% sometimes to 99%. Altho I didn't check this too well. CPU Temperature: around 50℃)

-ALL My drivers are up to date.
-I recently installed windows again, clean.
-Everything, all cables, are good connected.
-My internet is not the best, but I can tell the difference between internet lag and lag spikes.
-I ran some benchmarks, and the results where good, as they should be. I am willing to do this again if needed.
-I saw a lot of people having some issues too, especially in GTA V.
-Some people say it is my CPU bottlenecking, others say it doesn't.
-RAM is running in dual channel mode.
-Games are installed on my SSD and HDD.
-Nothing is running in the background.

So I hope I gave clear information. I ran out of ideas what might cause this problem. Or is the GTX 1070 not as good as we think? Thank you for trying to help me.

My PC:

Intel i5 4460.
EVGA Geforce GTX 1070 FTW
16GB Ram.
Z97S SLI Krait Edition.
1000 GB HDD.
250 EVO Samsung SSD.
Seasonic M12II Evo 620W.
 

HardwareTwitch

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Hmm do you have any other non essential services running in background. Try game boost mode maybe it helps.

Another thing is try reducing your graphic settings n see if problem occurs again.if it persist you can at least rule out the possibility that your CPU is a bottleneck for your setup.
 

theRTT

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That might help for GTA V. But if you ask me, a GTX 1070 should be able to run Battlefield 4 at ultra with no problem. Also Battlefront and especially Minecraft. I have no services running in the background.
 

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Just to rule out the possibility if CPU is the cause behind lower your graphic settings n check.

Cuz I have i5 n running GTA 5 on amd 7850 does not show symptoms as yours.( although I am upgrading my rig to 1060 n I know what beast 1070 is ;) ).
 

theRTT

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It is a beast indeed! I love the card, but I am almost sure it is not the cards fault. But if I lower the graphics and it still occurs, than you're saying it is my CPU?
 

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Hello,
I experience pretty much the exact same thing Running GTA V and Dying Light. I spent a lot of time overclocking my system (Northbridge, Memory and CPU) and with each increase I observed the GPU usage going up and the FPS going up. When GPU usage is below 99% (never seen after burner show gpu usage above 99%) and your FPS drops it's because your gpu is not being fed properly, I can almost guarantee you this is a CPU bottleneck scenario.
All titles you mentioned are DX11 titles which uses pretty much 1 cpu core for GPU Queueing and Scheduling, if you watch the individual cores using MSI AfterBurner (preferably on a second monitor) you will see one core that is higher usage than the other cores, this load will constantly bounce between the different cpu cores you have available, but yeah this is the primary thread that's feeding the GPU.

hope this helps
 

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IziSandev

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I have the same problem in minecraft. For the minecraft thing, try switching ON/OFF VBO (vortex buffer object) . If you have it on and you get the spikes, then it might be your GPU, since VBO consists of loading all the vertex data in your GPU from the start and it is supposed to optimize your game to my knowledge. also, if you can, tell me your results, I will need them for help also :)
 

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IF YOU HAVE 1070/1080 AND HAVE LAG DURING/AFTER YOU EXIT A GAME, OR IF YOU IDLE IN WINDOWS, I FOUND THE FIX. Most probably you'll use z170 or maximus mobo ... go to BIOS and activate Extreme Tweaking, and then go to GPU settings and set the GPU to default. It will fix the problem with random lag during browsing.
 

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Us with other MoBos? I had an MSI GTX 1080 and thought it was a bit overpowered, so I got the MSI 1070 instead and I am DISAPPOINTED. This thing is extremely sluggish, even my GTX 680 and 970 can do a much smoother job on GTA V and Dying Light (seem to be the most problematic games). Even Farcry 3 maxed out (1080p) sees nasty drops occasionally.

This is not card manufacturer specific, this is an issue with the 1070 overall as far as I read. What I haven't read is if others with Samsung memory have issues. I did notice that my 1070 ran smoothly on day 1 of use (approximately last weekend when purchased) before I updated the VBIOS with the artifact fix (GTAV had some artifacts).

My key specs:

-Intel Core i7 4790K 4.4GHz
-MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X (Micron memory, VBIOS updated)
-Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB 2133MHz (2x4GB dual channel config)
-Corsair HX750i Platinum PSU