What will run an ark survival evolved server with 50 people??

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I have 2 computers with multiple options essentially that I can turn into a dedicated server. I need to know what will run the server with no lag + support at least 30 players..

1. FX 8350 CPU or FX 6300...
Asus something fx supported motherboard
2x8 gig sticks corsair ram + 2x4 gig sticks of hyperx white ram.
(Custom trimmings get them at 2133 speed) so 24g of ram?
Evga gtx 960 sc or I have a gtx 770 2g ddr5..
Thermaltake modular 850 watt psu thing..
Intel 240G SSD
1tb wd black

2. A-10 5800k - A10 6800k quad 4.8 ghz.
Asrock fm2+ A88X extreme 6 motherboard.
2x4 gig sticks + a single 2gig stick 1600 speed custom timings..
Either gpu from above.
Corsair modular 750 watt psu thing..
Samsung 240g evo
2 500g seagate hdd

All ram is ddr3..
Whatever doesn't end up being a server will be the pc I will game on for now..
Also, if a server doesn't need a gpu but simply one for display output i do have an old zotac GT 610 gpu laying around...

Planning on installing win 7 64bit ult. Unless you'd recommend a better os for game server..



Update: everything listed above is what I currently own. Here is some things I forgot to mention.
2 cooler master hyper 212 evo after market cooler.
COOLER MASTER RC-902XB-KKN2 HAF XB EVO case.
APEVIA X-DREAMER4 Series case, Black/Blue edition.
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As far as my networking/connection goes I am rocking an asus AC2400 RT-AC87R router. With an ARRIS SURFboard SB6183 DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem - 600 MHz Dual-Thread Processor.
My upload is 105mb and my download is 306mb.
Both motherboards support gigabit through put speeds, however I don't mind throwing some intel nic cards if it will make a difference. My ping through my service provider is only 12.

 
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No, see, the Ark server currently doesn't even do quad core, it's a single core application, so an i5 or i7 wouldn't help much. there are i7s with faster single thread performance, but this i3 is the cheapest fastest single thread performer. The i7-4790k is about 12% better for double the price.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

2nd, Thermaltake isn't a very good PSU brand, Corsair sells as many bad PSUs as they do good ones. Seasonic is consistently a top tier brand for quality and performance, they just don't spend any money on advertisements.

3rd, it's not recommended to use DDR3 memory on Skylake, so you might as well get DDR4 ram which has the side benefit of being faster.

4th, already addressed.

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They'd all run poorly because the ARK server software is single threaded, so maximizing your single threaded performance (i.e. intel CPUs, not necesarily i7s, even i3s or g3258s(OCed high)) is what you need. All those AMD CPUs have really bad single core performance.

You'll also need a very good upload speed if you want to host that many players.
And a good router that can handle all the people connecting to your network.

Sell what you got, and build something like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6320 3.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($158.02 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI H110M PRO-VD PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($81.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: ARCTIC Arctic F9 43.0 CFM 92mm Fan ($3.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Silverstone AP122 42.6 CFM 120mm Fan ($5.99 @ Directron)
Total: $400.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-27 10:47 EDT-0400


 
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Okay, so I guess I understand that it runs better on single threaded performance processors. But, that doesn't explain why you'd suggest something so low as a dual core even if it was an i7 it wouldn't be able to handle an ark server as a lowly dual core.

2nd. why would I get a 430watt power-supply when I already have a 850 and 750... listed above.
3rd, I don't think faster ddr4 ram speeds are going to make a difference if the server runs off an ssd?...
4th I know the game doesn't utilize more than 4 cores running as a server.. So I understand that the 8 and 6 cores wouldn't benefit much if at all..

So with that being said could you simply recommend something in the Intel family that's preferably a quad core cpu.. even if its a last gen or 3 gens it'd probably preform better no?
Then i'd also need a motherboard recommendation that has support for 64gig of ram for future proofing.. It doesn't matter if its as big as an extended ATX motherboard or tiny both cases listed above support every size..
 
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No, see, the Ark server currently doesn't even do quad core, it's a single core application, so an i5 or i7 wouldn't help much. there are i7s with faster single thread performance, but this i3 is the cheapest fastest single thread performer. The i7-4790k is about 12% better for double the price.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

2nd, Thermaltake isn't a very good PSU brand, Corsair sells as many bad PSUs as they do good ones. Seasonic is consistently a top tier brand for quality and performance, they just don't spend any money on advertisements.

3rd, it's not recommended to use DDR3 memory on Skylake, so you might as well get DDR4 ram which has the side benefit of being faster.

4th, already addressed.

If you want to build a system that's good for ANY type of server, i'd change my recommendations, but it's gonna cost quite a bit more. THe build I gave was specifically for a dedicated ARK server at the lowest cost.

They don't make boards that support more than 32GBs of ram for LGA 1150, but you won't really get near that much usage, and if you want more, you'll have to shell out a lot more money, for an extreme series CPU and LGA 2011 motherboard, those go up to 128gb, again you won't need or use that much.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1241 V3 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($261.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: ARCTIC Arctic F9 43.0 CFM 92mm Fan ($3.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Silverstone AP122 42.6 CFM 120mm Fan ($5.99 @ Directron)
Total: $611.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-27 14:45 EDT-0400

If you still REALLY want a 64gb motherboard:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-1620 V4 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($286.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.95 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: EVGA Micro 2 Micro ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($181.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($254.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GT 710 1GB Video Card ($32.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Enermax Thorex ATX Mid Tower Case ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Silverstone AP122 42.6 CFM 120mm Fan ($5.99 @ Directron)
Case Fan: Silverstone AP122 42.6 CFM 120mm Fan ($5.99 @ Directron)
Case Fan: Silverstone AP122 42.6 CFM 120mm Fan ($5.99 @ Directron)
Total: $926.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-27 14:56 EDT-0400


These are designed a bit different, being servers, i've geared designed them to be running 24/7. So they have clean solid power, as well as staying cool.

 
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The biggest problem with the answer is; the OP wants to use one of the systems for gaming on. So that suggestiong of selling both and getting just one system is not a suitable one. The A-10 6800k is the better one for the server with the lower GPU. use the FX 8350 system with your best GPU for your gaming system.
 
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I'm setting up a Ark home server now with a HP Proliant DL380 G6 Server 2x X5570 QC 2.93GHz 24GB off of Ebay for $150. Has 18 DIMM slots for memory to add as much as you need. Will support 20 to 30 players with cluster servers to The Island, Ragnarok, and Center maps. Will let you know how it comes out. And you don't need a video card for the server. Add another $100 for more memory 48gb to 64gb and maybe some ssd drives and should run great. It comes with two 10000 rpm hard drives.
 
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How did this turn out for you marionovelli?
 
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Hey Chewbaca It came out great. Running 6 cluster maps off the HP server for less than $500 not counting internet / modem cost. CPU is only at 15 to 23% with 25 players and 6 servers loaded. Ram is your biggest cost. You need u/l speed. 10mb u/l will handle about 20 players depending on what else you are doing on your home network. I went with comcasts 1 gig internet which has 40 mb u/l which should allow up to 75 players total across all maps in the cluster. Good thing it's a one time investment and no rental fee's.
 
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I Bump this thread, hoping to get a solution to my problem. I am currently hosting an ARK cluster of 4 maps (would like to add Extinction soon...) on this server:
XEON E5-2608L v3
64GB ram
Samsung SSD 950PRO 512GB

The server is running hyperv and has several VM on it, however they do not use much CPU at all. RAM is optimised using dynamic memory, with the VM running the cluster having set a max of 24GB, and 6 virtual cores.

Now, when there are 15+ players on the cluster one or more maps start to lag. This happened for example yesterday with 18 players. Now, I hoped to be able to host up to 25 players with this build. What's wrong? memory usage yesterday was 21GB and the VM was given the status "OK", meaning that it did not need more. CPU use was around 75%. What is the bottleneck? CPU? or more likely the connection (it's a fiber connection, it should go up to 40Mbit/s in UP, even if probably is much lower...still, it is surely more than 10Mbits)

Suggested upgrades for the server? I know single-thread CPU is important here, but I also need to keep energy consumption low, that's why I got for the "L" XEON cpus. thanks for any suggestion in advance
 
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