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Graviteyy

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A while ago my mother accidently pulled the plug out on my powersupply whilst I was using the computer, this caused the psu to die on me. Since my computer case was already broken i found a combo pack that basically was a case and psu with it, i thought to myself "perfect deal" and bought it without checking anything... very stupid of me.

When the case came it turns out they used a cheapy psu and it had no pcie cable to power my gpu...

Id spent all my pocket money on this combo "deal" so i went and bought myself a pcie molex adapter... again very stupid of me. a month or two later of hard gaming, the adapter decides to burn out on me. I got a new psu and tested it and nope... so i thought the graphics card died along with the wire. I bought a new graphics card and tested it and still no... Everything was working before this adapter burn out, so what could it be? I have no onboard graphics to check the bios and ive also reset my cmos.

i may have ruled it down to the motherboard or cpu? everything else turns on, hard drive, led strips, fans etc, everything but the pcie slots work.

The graphics card doesnt show any sign of power.

If I dont plug the graphics card into the motherboard but only connect it to the psu, should the fans spin up?

thanks
 
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Yeah, the adapter would not 'burn out', without the PSU providing excessive voltage etc through it. Because it did, it's very likely the PSU failed.

Ok, I understand you're using the 430W now... .that makes sense.

Unfortunately, the only way to know for sure is to replace components. Either with someone elses to try out, or by purchasing new.

Barty1884

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First off, if an adapter is required.......it's probably not a good idea, but it sounds like you know that.

It's rare for an adapter to burn out - and from what you're describing, I would think it's unlikely. Much more likely is the cheap 'included' PSU died on you.

Do you know the make/model of the PSU? Should be branded on the side of the PSU itself....

Hopefully it's just the PSU that died, but if it really is a junk PSU (more a PSU shaped object than a PSU) with non-existent protection, it may have taken other components with it.

Please list your full specs though.
 

Graviteyy

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Hey! thanks for the quick reply

the psu was still working after the wire burnt out, everything exept the graphics card was working
 

Barty1884

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How are you deeming it 'working'? Just because fans spin up, or the light(s) come on, doesn't necessarily mean the PSU is working properly.

Which GPU do you have? You might be able to test it out with a lower power GPU initially, but I would highly recommend you replace that PSU with a good quality unit.

Again, which PSU/Case deal did you get?

And what are your full specs?
 

Graviteyy

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Im deeming it working because it powered everything EXEPT the graphics card

The old psu is a 500w alpine

My old graphics card was an r7 260x (2gb edition)
My new graphics card is a sapphire rx 470 (4gb edition)

specs:
Cpu: Amd Athlon x4 860k
Gpu: sapphire rx 470
Mobo: a78m-e35 (msi military class 4)
PSU: Evga 430w
case: Cit Neptune

I can almost guarantee that the gpu is NOT the problem since my old one and my new one is having the same problem.

I also used a few of those online "power supply" checkers and 430w is fine for my build.
 

Barty1884

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Wait, which is the 'cheapy' PSU? The 500W Alpine (depending on the model) was likely a very basic unit, rated to something more akin to 400W than 500W.

The EVGA 430W, while nowhere near the best PSU in the world, is still pretty solid all things considered.

The EVGA (which appears to be your 'newest' PSU) has a 6+2PCIe connector.........that should be all an RX 470 needs.
Which PSU needed the adapter?
 

Graviteyy

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The psu that needed the adapter was the crap one, alpine 500w
 

Barty1884

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I'm confused.... when did you buy the EVGA 430W then? You don't mention it in your original build.

PSU #1 - died
PSU #2 - needed adapter (the Alpine?)
PSU #3 - Maybe the 430W EVGA?

If it was the Alpine that burnt out on you, it has very, very minimal protection. The damage could well be your motherboard (or, less likely, RAM or CPU) - especially considering the GPU is new.

Of course, if you're still attempting to run the Alpine PSU, that's where I'd suspect the issue is - again, an adapter doesn't really burn out - but the PSU itself may have. Not necessarily fully, that's why it still shows signs of life.

But if you've replaced the Alpine (since the 'burn out') with the EVGA, then you may well have damage elsewhere.

If so, unfortunately it's a trial & error (remove/replace components) to establish what was damaged - assuming there's no obvious physical damage.
 

Graviteyy

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psu 1) Evga 500b (DIED)
psu 2) alpine 500w (rubbish and came with case, used adapter with this one)
psu 3) Evga 430w (Using this now, Brand new)

the adapter was physically burnt out, I could instantly smell it and the adapter was all black and crippled.

How do i trial and error something like this?
- I cant check the ram sticks without getting my pc to start (keyboard lights dont turn on so im assuming it doesnt POST without gpu)
- I cant check cpu without buying one
- I cant check mobo without buying one

The only two culprits left are mobo and cpu, is there any way i can test either of these two? without buying them or using someone elses? atm i dont have any money...


The PSU did not burn out (or that I can tell, no smell or anything) the only problem i saw was the adapter, but this doesnt even matter since I have bought a new psu
 

Barty1884

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Yeah, the adapter would not 'burn out', without the PSU providing excessive voltage etc through it. Because it did, it's very likely the PSU failed.

Ok, I understand you're using the 430W now... .that makes sense.

Unfortunately, the only way to know for sure is to replace components. Either with someone elses to try out, or by purchasing new.
 
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Graviteyy

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Great :/

thanks for your input on this situation, im never going to be able to get new parts so thats rip me...
 

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