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Now, although #2 comes with NO removable storage apparently for the drive installed and HAS the PS2 to install windows 7, the main pointers are #2 has a good keyboard saving me 50$ possibly and has 4 not 2 RAM slots, while #1 has 2400MHz RAM than 2133HGz and a possibly better GPU. If faster RAM than available lanes wins than than eliminates 2 "pointers".

#1 http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/cyberpowerpc-cyberpowerpc-gamer-xtreme-gaming-pc-intel-i7-6700-2tb-hdd-16gb-ram-amd-radeon-rx-480-graphics-eng-gxi860/10480987.aspx?path=7b19ba9b913363629bdeb7033552b599en02

#2 http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/hp-hp-gaming-pc-intel-core-i7-6700-2tb-hdd128gb-ssd-16gb-ram-nvidia-geforce-gtx-960-graphics-windows-10-860-019/10391778.aspx?path=1bfe429ab5a7bc2333c04707171d1874en02
 
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the 6600 and 6600k are different. The 6600 is locked, the 6600k is unlocked, and can be overclocked, both it and the i7 have 4 cores. The i7 has hyperthreading. You do not need hyperthreading for gaming. The 6600k is faster and can be cranked up faster by overclocking which is what Barty set you up with.
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Bench between 2 builds, #1 as base and #2 as alternative.

Userbenchmark PC Build Comparison
Baseline Bench: Game 77%, Desk 65%, Work 52%
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 €265
GPU: AMD RX 480 €205
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 2TB €60
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2400 C14 2x8GB €71
Total: €601

Alternative Bench: Game 54%, Desk 82%, Work 60%
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 €265
GPU: Nvidia GTX 960 €169
SSD: Samsung 850 Pro 128GB €77
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 2TB €60
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2133 C13 2x8GB €65
Total: €636
 
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Jesus christ.
#1 has a RX 480. This is an entry level card.
#2 has a GTX 960. This is an entry level card, from last generation.

Both are dramatically over priced and will need a new GPU to bring them into the "blur free gaming and VR" that they advertise. They will also both need a new PSU as they are probably terrible.

Neither one has an SSD large enough to be useful.

They seem so damn expensive for what you get, which is essentially... bleh, not good.
 
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This comment regarding the GPU is completely incorrect. The RX 480 is hardly entry level and in fact is as fast as or faster than a GTX 970 in most cases.

Now I will agree both systems are quite overpriced, but system #1 the cyberpower will have no problem handling any game at 1080p in max details. I have an RX 480 with a processor nowhere near a 6700 and it has 0 problems with everything at ultra.

#2 the HP system is a major DO NOT BUY. We have had users with that system. It is impossible to upgrade as the case/motherboard/etc are all proprietary. The Cyberpower is basically prebuilt from standard parts, and so easily upgradeable.

Both are well over $500 more than they should cost (yes even in Canadian dollars), but gun to your head have to pick one PC #1 will be an excellent gamer, even though its a waste of money.
 
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Where are you located specifically? Canada I know, but city/province? There are a couple of options of stores (MemoryExpress in the West, CanadaComputers out East) that'll put a rig together for you - assuming you don't want to do it yourself.

It's been covered off, #1 is the better of the two, if pressed to pick one or the other.
Realistically, the i7 is unnecessary unless gaming at 4K - and neither GPU is going to allow you to do that adequately.

You could look at an i5-6600K build with a GTX 1060 (6GB) for ~$1,200 which would be a much better use of funds:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($304.75 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($63.57 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170A-X1/3.1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($108.98 @ NCIX)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.85 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 6GB Mini Video Card ($319.95 @ shopRBC)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case ($35.08 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Memory Express)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($115.48 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1226.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-26 14:14 EDT-0400

There would be a small fee for assemble (probably $150-$200) from either store.
 
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The one Barty wrote can't be better than either, it doesn't even have an i7 little own more than these i7s, is missing the Asus make motherboard and msi make GPU, and only has 8gb of RAM.

I likely won't be upgrading it except for possibly RAM in the future. And if the Cyberpower has only 2 RAM lanes then it's motherboard surely isn't those awesome Asus Z170s right?
 
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Ram Slots not lanes. And you can always replace the RAM you have ( which is often required). Also that i7 6700 will game no better than Barty's i5, his is overclockable to far faster than the 6700. Games do not need the hyperthreading of the i7, they need a good quad core, fast single core performance, and a good GPU, all of which the i5-6600k has over that i7.

The Cyberpower does not necessarily have Asus, MSI, or whatever parts you think it has, it has what they can get when they build it (Cyberpower is known for this). The stuff he selected is of no lesser quality and in fact his motherboard is far better, all for $300 less.
 
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No it would not. Skylake is dual channel, there is no advantage to running 4 memory dimms.

ASRock is an offshoot of ASUS. Yes ASUS is better IMO, but Asrock is not bad. We can change the board in his build to an ASUS and still come to the same price which is still way cheaper and way better at gaming and better quality.

Example:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($304.75 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($63.57 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.85 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 6GB Mini Video Card ($319.95 @ shopRBC)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case ($35.08 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Memory Express)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($115.48 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1237.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-26 15:17 EDT-0400

 
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the 6600 and 6600k are different. The 6600 is locked, the 6600k is unlocked, and can be overclocked, both it and the i7 have 4 cores. The i7 has hyperthreading. You do not need hyperthreading for gaming. The 6600k is faster and can be cranked up faster by overclocking which is what Barty set you up with.
 
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