Kernel-Power41 Crash even after new PSU

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Hi so I've been having this Kernel 41 issue where the PC restarts to a black screen when underload. I had the issue with my old Aerocool Integrator 600w power supply so I switched to an EVGA White 600w PSU which I thought would fix the issue but it still persists.
I am even having this crash on some games such as the Witcher3 which I never had the issue on before upgrading PSUs. Please help

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AMD Fx-6350
Nvidia GTX 970
EVGA White 600w psu
78-LMT USB3 gigabyte motherboard

*I put this in Graphics cards category as it may be my gpu but I'm not sure*
 
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Ah, makes sense. Amazon is littered with bad builds like that.

This is a great deal right here (I like ASUS):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2F84D69042&cm_re=m5a99x-_-13-131-874-_-Product

MSI is good as well this is another good choice and a bit cheaper

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790&cm_re=msi_970_gaming-_-13-130-790-_-Product

As for the cooler get this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565&cm_re=cryorig-_-9SIA4UF2DZ6565-_-Product

The problem is not your PSU, however as I said if you can return it (and get a better one), because its not a good one, that would be a good idea.

This would be a good choice...
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Kernel Power 41 can also be caused by bad memory, have you tested your memory yet?

Also what are you cooling your processor with, and are you overclocking?

Finally if you are thats your problem, your CPU is too much for that board. 125 watt AMD processors do not work properly on 760G motherboards because they have such weak power phases. In reality even not overclocking that CPU is too much for that board. Probably the cause of your issue.
 
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Hi thanks for quick response

I have used Windows Memory Diagnostic and it came up clean if thats what you mean
CPU cooler is an Arctic Freezer A11 or something from that range
Yes the cpu is not the best. It has TurboCore which keeps activating itself again every time i reboot

What should I do about the cpu
 
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CPU is fine, your motherboard is not up to the task and that cooler is garbage.

You need a new motherboard based on a 970 chipset or 990 FX and a better power Phase (at least 6+1 preferably 8+2 here is a list: http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database )

And a betetr CPU cooler, such as the Coolermaster EVO 212, or CRYORIG H7.

Also that new PSU you bought is actually a bad one. If you can, return it and get something better.
 
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Woah this is bad
Garbage? Seems good to me. I get really low temps on the cpu even under load
EVGA psu is bad? really i searched for ages. I dont want to spend too much on it

Also please explain about the mobo. Really would rather not get a new one if its not 100% necessary
 
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Its not good, Arctic generally makes low end coolers, and 125w AMD processors need better ones. Une rload your system is crashing so no its not working very well although the main reason is your motherboard, and the lack of cooling on your VRMS and the lack of VRMs.

THe motherboard does not have the power delivery for a 125watt CPU. Its a board thats made for 95 watt AMD CPUs. The CPU under heavy load is literally drawing more power than the board can deliver. A new motherboard is 100% necessary.

EVGA makes good and not good PSU's. t hat one in particular is from their low end line. A good one is a 550G2 for example. While that is not likely your problem, being that you did just buy it if you can return it and get something better you absolutely should.
 
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Ok thanks once again for this info. This is good news tbh because its not something thats my fault lol
Bought the pc custom from admi on amazon. Those guys did a really poor job then, supplying me that crappy psu and a mobo not powerful enough for the cpu.

I will definitely look into getting a new motherboard then. Any personal recommendations?

And might as well get a new cooler if thats required. Ill look into a new psu but i cant see the problem being caused by that
 
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Ah, makes sense. Amazon is littered with bad builds like that.

This is a great deal right here (I like ASUS):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2F84D69042&cm_re=m5a99x-_-13-131-874-_-Product

MSI is good as well this is another good choice and a bit cheaper

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790&cm_re=msi_970_gaming-_-13-130-790-_-Product

As for the cooler get this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565&cm_re=cryorig-_-9SIA4UF2DZ6565-_-Product

The problem is not your PSU, however as I said if you can return it (and get a better one), because its not a good one, that would be a good idea.

This would be a good choice

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013&cm_re=xfx_ts_550-_-17-207-013-_-Product

 
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You are an absolute legend man

Thanks so much for looking into all this. ADMI legit suck I hate them
So mad that my warranty went out earlier this year too.

Just one thing will those Motherboards fit my Micro-ATX case?
 
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Micro ATX? Damn, no. What case is it exactly (model etc)? Can you link me to the actual system?
 
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/262589296152?lpid=122&chn=ps&adgroupid=27378760866&rlsatarget=pla-181484332626&adtype=pla&poi=&googleloc=1007064&device=c&campaignid=620865095&crdt=0

this is the case i moved it into for space reasons

 
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Ok so the bad news for you is there are no MicroATX AM3+ motherboards that properly handle 125w CPUs.

There are some that claim to. I would even say this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157582

MAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYBEEEE would be ok with a ton of cooling. But honestly I don't want to see you spend money on it and be disappointed. Any chance you can switch back to a standard size case?
 
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Oh shiiiiiet
Yeah i have the old case upstairs. Not a massive fan of it but I guess we could move back. bit dissapointing lol

How bad is that mobo for real tho? At only £50 it might be worth the shot
 
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It has a better chipset than yours, but it still has the 4+1 power phase which is your main problem.

AMD 125 w processors need good VRMs and good cooling. That case is a bit small for good cooling, and the VRMs on both boards are way too small.

Its a waste of money, you're far better off buying the MSI board I linked above and using your old case.
 
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Right. So my current mobo has an unsuitable power phase and also not enough wattage for the cpu and isnt suitable for my gpu? Damn.

So what do I need to buy?
Also is just downgrading the cpu an option and how good does the cpu have to be in order to run games well since I have the 970
 
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Downgrading the CPU is an option. I wouldn't though as you'll likely bottleneck your GTX 970.

Just unsuitable power phase to support a 125watt cpu. Its good enough for a 95 watt one.

If you did you would want an FX-6300, FX-8320E, or FX-8370E. Not sure if you can find the last 2.

I would keep your CPU, buy the MSI motherboard i linked and the cooler I linked. Put everything in your old case, re-install windows, and go. Its probably cheaper, and definitely faster.
 
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Ok thanks again for all this
Just for future reference . Which spec of the mobo tells me if it can run a 125w CPU and which spec tells me about which GPUs it can run.

I will most likely move it all back into the other case then. God damn ADMI make me sad.

Also do i have to do another windows fresh install? hate that
 
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The problem with AM3+ motherboards is many say they can handle a 125w cpu but they cannot. You need to look at the power phases. If it has a 4+1 power phase then its no good for 125w. If it has like a 6+1, 6+2, 8+2 or more then thats good. That link I gave uyou above is a good guide.

IN the future you will likely never have to worry about this again. AM3+ is done, your next build this won't matter.

And yeah you should re-install windows to get the best performance out of your new board. Windows likely won't work correctly without it.
 
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Ok so I need to buy that msi board. Which can definitely run the 970 and the FX-6350
Then buy a new cooler.
Ill get round to the PSU when I save up a bit more.

I think thats all right
 
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