Advice PC Build

Sebubble · Sep 28, 2016

Hi
First of all I'm extremely new to this site so forgive me if I've put this in the incorrect place or I do anything wrong. I'm just trying to search for people to answer the questions I have. I've been googling said questions for a while but there's a couple of things I just want to get clear.

I'm going to have a computer built for me very soon and here's all the info for it.

BitFenix Ronin ATX Case
Asrock FATAL1TY Z97 KILLER MB
16GB 2400MHz Gaming Ram
240GB SSD + 1TB HDD
Be Quiet! 630W 80+ Certified PSU
Super Writer DVD-RW
Nvidia GTX750Ti 2GB GPU
Windows 8.1 / Windows 10
Be Quiet! Shadow Heatsink & Fan
5 Year Limited Warranty

Core i5 4460 QC 3.2GHz - £945
Core i5 4490K QC 3.5GHz - £995
Core i7 4790 WC 3.6GHz - £1050
Core i7 4790K QC 4GHz - £1095

32GB 2400MHz Gaming Ram + £99
GTX 960 2GB + £85
GTX 970 4GB + £190
GTX 980 4GB + £350
Dual Band WiFi + £35
AC WiFi + £65

The two sections beneath are, I'm guessing, improved replacements. This is me being stupid as I don't know an awful lot about computers but I was just wondering if this is good enough for high end gaming. I'm not exactly a 'gamer' but as an artist, I love seeing beautiful games at their best and running smoothly. I also want to make sure this will be good enough for future games as I'm hoping something that costs this much will last me a good few years.

I want to go for the Core i7 4790K and the GTX 980 so I'll be spending £1445. Is it worth it?
Is it worth the extra £99 to get the 32GB 2400MHz Gaming Ram? I'm guessing this replaces the 16GB etc instead of adding to it. (It won't be 48GB 4800MHz Gaming Ram... will it?)

I'm also looking into getting a new monitor to go with it. I have a 60Hz monitor at the moment and have been told that 144Hz is a million times better for gaming. If so, can anyone advise me on the size and resolution of this 144Hz monitor I should get? I'm not too clued up about that either.

One final question, this will prove my naivety, what's the difference between SSD and HDD? Will I have enough space to install plenty of big games with the 240GB SSD AND 1TB HDD, or should I ask about getting a bigger SSD?

Oh also I have an internet cable, I'm guessing this is the better option than getting WiFi as well?

Thank you for your time. I realise this is a bit of an essay but I wanted to get everything sorted out before I start parting with cash. I would appreciate any advice about the questions I've asked or just any general comments about things that you've noticed.

logainofhades · Sep 28, 2016

32gb is not needed, and that is all old hardware. Totally overpriced system, as well. You can get a faster system, for less, building it yourself.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£290.28 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£76.98 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£127.43 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£68.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£63.04 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£42.95 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card (£388.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Thermaltake Core V51 ATX Mid Tower Case (£74.35 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£119.99 @ Novatech)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£83.99 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £1336.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-28 21:02 BST+0100

Sebubble · Sep 28, 2016

logainofhades :

I wouldn't have a clue how to put it all together. Is there a place/site that sells all the parts and builds it for you? I don't mind paying a bit extra for someone else to sort it all out so I can just plug it in and start using it.
Is there any massive differences between i7 6700K and 4790K? I would ask the place that's building the computer but seeing as they don't have it as an option, I'm not really sure what the deal is.
Again with GTX 980 and 1070, is that going to make a visible change? The man in the shop told me they'd only just come out so it was best not to risk it at the moment.

logainofhades · Sep 28, 2016

Newegg has how to videos, on how to build. They did not just come out. The GTX 1070 came out, in June, and is faster than a GTX 980ti. The 6700k has been out for over a year. The man in that shop is just trying to make a buck, getting rid of old inventory. Performance difference isn't massive, between the 4790k, and 6700k, but the 4790k has 0 upgrade potential. It is on a dead platform.

Sebubble · Sep 28, 2016

logainofhades :

Hmm, okay that's actually really interesting. Do you have a good recommendation on a 144Hz monitor? I'd like it quite big with good resolution but the size doesn't matter a massive amount. I will seriously consider building myself now actually, thank you that's really helpful.

logainofhades · Sep 28, 2016

What kind of budget do you have, for monitor? Those can get expensive really fast, at that kind of speed, and depending on whether you get one equipped with G-sync or not.

Sebubble · Sep 28, 2016

logainofhades :

I suppose I'd be willing to go to about £300-£400? I just want something good at 144Hz or higher (but do I need to go higher?). I don't know what resolution I'm supposed to get and I have no idea what G-sync is.

There's this for £219 (Amazon UK) - BenQ XL2411Z 24 inch Gaming monitor for e-Sports with 144 Hz, 1 ms Response Time, FPS Mode, Black eQualizer, Flicker-free, Height Adjustment Stand, HDMI x 2

And this for £318 (Amazon UK) - BenQ XL2430T 24 inch Gaming Monitor for e-Sports with 144 Hz, Colour Vibrance, Game Mode (FPS, RTS, MOBA), Black eQualizer, Flicker-free, Height Adjustable Stand, HDMI x 2, S-Switch

turkey3_scratch · Sep 28, 2016

logainofhades :

32gb is not needed, and that is all old hardware. Totally overpriced system, as well. You can get a faster system, for less, building it yourself.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£290.28 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£76.98 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£127.43 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£68.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£63.04 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£42.95 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card (£388.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Thermaltake Core V51 ATX Mid Tower Case (£74.35 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£119.99 @ Novatech)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£83.99 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £1336.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-28 21:02 BST+0100

When gaming that system should only be about 300W max; 850W is heavily overkill. Typical gaming loads will be around 250W. With overclocked parts, then it could get around 300W-325W.

logainofhades · Sep 28, 2016

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/g-sync

logainofhades · Sep 28, 2016

turkey3_scratch :

logainofhades :

When gaming that system should only be about 300W max; 850W is heavily overkill.

Price wasn't much different, from the 750w G2, that I normally would have chosen. Leaves plenty of headroom for SLI, and overclocking, as well. PCPP has the wattage around 362w.

Sebubble · Sep 28, 2016

logainofhades :

After discussing it with my friend and getting a little stressed about all the different sites I'd have to buy from + building it myself (despite my dad being an electronic engineer and an electrician), I was looking at computer building sites. I was a little worried about what would happen about 'configuration' and everything once I'd built it. I'd really rather have the option to just plug in and go without all the 'errors'.

I found this, is it any good? It's £999 -

Olympic Intel i7 6700 GTX 1060 Gaming PC System
The AI Olympic Gaming PC is a more than capable system in the AI Series, specifications such as an Intel i7-6700 Quad Core CPU. Other key components include a ASUS motherboard, 16GB of 2400MHz DDR4 Ram, 120GB SSD and a 1TB HD. The Olympic Gaming PC is custom-built and ready to ship for delivery!
• CCorsair 100R Case + 600Watt Modular PSU
• Intel i7-6700 Quad Core CPU
• Asus Z170-A Gaming Motherboard 1151 Chipset
• 16GB 2400MHz DDR4 Ram
• 3GB GTX1060 OC Graphics Card
• 120GB SSD
• 1TB HD 7200RPM
• DVD-RW
• Microsoft Windows 10 64bit
• 1 Year Return to Base Warranty
• Free Telephone support

There's also this one (which I can give you the details for if you want it) for £1,349 -
AI X99 Intel i7 5820K GTX1060 Gaming PC System

logainofhades · Sep 28, 2016

My biggest concern is no mention of the brand/model, of that power supply. That is my biggest issue with prebuilds. They tend to have junk power supplies. The 1070 is far better, than a 1060.

Sebubble · Sep 30, 2016

logainofhades :

Well is it worth the money going higher and getting a 1080? Would it work with the build you gave me?

logainofhades · Sep 30, 2016

The 1080 is worth it, if you are looking at getting a 1440p monitor. If you stay with 1080p, I would stick with the 1070.

Sebubble · Sep 30, 2016

logainofhades :

Scrap my previous answer. With the build you've given me, what monitor would you suggest? 1080p 144Hz? Would 1440p 144Hz have FPS lag? I want the games to look great but it's no good if they're not super smooth.

logainofhades · Sep 30, 2016

I would go with the best G-sync monitor, that you can afford. 1440p would look much nicer, than 1080p.

Sebubble · Sep 30, 2016

logainofhades :

I built a computer on Computer Planet and I wanted to run it by you. I tried to go for the best stuff but save money at the same time. The site actually informs you if stuff isn't compatible so this should all work but I want to be using it for at least 5 years.

Computer Case - Cooler Master N 300
CPU - Intel i7 6700K - (4 x 4.2 GHZ) - Skylake
CPU Heatsink - Arctic Cooling Freezer 11i - Low Noise
Memory - Corsair 16GB Vengeance LPX 3000MHz (2x8GB) - Lifetime Warranty (DDR4) - Black
Graphics Card - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 - 8 GB - (PCI-E) - (VR-READY) - (Free Gears of War 4 Game)
Motherboard - Asus Z170-P (Intel Z170) - 2xUSB 3.0/2xUSB 2.0
Sound Card - Motherboard Integrated HD Sound
Power Supply - Corsair CX 750W PSU - Low Noise
CPU Compound - Standard CPU Compound Supplied With Heatsink
Extra Case Fans - Standard Fans Included With Case
Hard Drive #1 - 250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD SATA-III, Read 540MB/s, Write 520MB/s - Silent
Hard Drive #2 - 1 TB Seagate (1000 GB) SATA-III HDD 7200 RPM 64MB
Optical Drive #1 - 24x DVD/CD Re-Writer/Reader - Black - (SATA)
Operating System - Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64 BIT (Genuine DVD & COA Included)
Security Software FREE - Microsoft Windows Defender (10 Year License - 1 PC License)
Monitor #1 - 27" Asus (PG278Q) ROG Swoft G-SYNC 144Hz HD Widescreen Monitor - 1ms - 2560x1440 - DisplayPort
Power Cable - 1 x 1.8 Metre UK Mains Power Cable

Total: £2,124.61 (Bear in mind the monitor alone is £564 or something)

logainofhades · Oct 3, 2016

Not a good PSU, and not sure about that cooler.

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