asking about build for render and graphic

saikoonly

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Intel i7-6700K + 64 GB Ram DDR4 + GTX 1080 + z170
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Intel i7-6800K + 32 GB Ram DDR4 + GTX 1070 + x99
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asking about this build for render & graphic [Adobe + Autodesk ]
who will be better for me
 
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saikoonly,

For architecture, industrial design, and graphic design, I use both Autodesk (Building Design Suite) and Adobe (CS6 MC) along with Solidworks and Sketchup, and a neophyte with Mathematica and Matlab..

CPU: The choice will be dependent on whether the processing benefits from multi-threading. Rendering can be CPU or GPU-based. For rendering single images - architectural and industrial design, I prefer CPU rendering, but if I were doing...


saikoonly,

For architecture, industrial design, and graphic design, I use both Autodesk (Building Design Suite) and Adobe (CS6 MC) along with Solidworks and Sketchup, and a neophyte with Mathematica and Matlab..

CPU: The choice will be dependent on whether the processing benefits from multi-threading. Rendering can be CPU or GPU-based. For rendering single images - architectural and industrial design, I prefer CPU rendering, but if I were doing animation, effects processing, it really has to be done on the GPU. I use a bit of both and I do test rendering at 800 X 600 in GPU ray tracing (VRay RT / Skechuo) which is so fast, I can navigate around the model and it renders almost real-time- like a stuttering animation. The CPU test renderings of the same model at 3180 X 2140 on an 16-core- 32 thread dual Xeon system take about 9 minutes. the moral of the story is be prepared for both CPU and GPU rendering.

Adobe is extremely slowly adapting to multi-threading, but at the moment, even their most mutli-threadied applications such as Premiere and After Effects top their efficiency at 5-6 cores..

RAM: RAM size has to do with the number of programs used simultaneously and file sizes. I have a system primarily for 3D modeling with a 6-core Xeon and 32GB and the analysis / simulation / rendering system has two 8-core Xeons and 64GB. Even with graphic design, the files sizes can be very large and I'll have 14 or 5 large programs with 2D and 3D CAD, Illustrator and 15X 300MB photos open at once. Unless, the projects are quite limited, and you run only one or two programs at once, I'd say plan on having or leave room (= larger capacity RAM modules) to eventually have 64GB of RAM.

GPU: The GTX 1070 has in Passmark the 4th highest average 3D rating of 11544 the GTX 1080 is No. 2 (after the Titan X) at 12479, either of those cGPU's should be good about anything. I prefer Quadros as they are capable of higher anti-aliasing, 10-bit color, and better viewport support. Have a look at the Autodesk certified hardware pages:

For AutoCAD 2016 / Win 7 Prof'l:

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/syscert?siteID=123112&id=18844534&results=1&stype=graphic&product_group=3&release=2016&os=8192&manuf=all&opt=2

And the certified GPU's are all Quadros and Firepros. There are some support implications in using a certified GPU as Autodesk will not as helpful with display-related problems if the GPU is not on their certified list. I know an AE firm that when there is trouble with their 3ds, Revit or Infrastructure etc. Autodesk just points at the GPU and sort of saunters off.

Given the future is going to be increased multi-threading, and LGA1151 is limited to 4-cores, LGA2011-3 is by far the more forward-looking platform. X99 has fantastic performance and is highly sympatico with M.2. An LGA2011-3 system would allow changing to an 8 or 10 core. In fact, It might be worth looking into an 8-core Xeon, but the Xeon E5-1650 v4 is worth a look as well- 6-core @ 3.6 /4.0GHz, memory bandwidth of 78.6GB/s and uses up to 1.54TB of DDR4-2400. Passmark average CPU mark is 14235 and the Single Thread Mark is 2178. For comparison, the i7-6700K is 4-core @ 4.0 /4.2GHz memory bandwidth of 34.1GB/s and uses up to 64GB of DDR4-2133. Passmark average CPU mark is 10974 and the Single Thread Mark is 2331. The 6800K is 6-core @ 3.4 / 3.6GHz memory bandwidth is not listed, and uses up to 128GB of DDR4-2400 Passmark average CPU mark is 13650 and the Single Thread Mark is 2046. There is a price difference, and the Xeon E5-1650 v4 is almost $300 more costly than the i7-6700 and $200 more than the i7-6800K.

Can you say more about you priority of uses and programs, plus the typical file sizes?

Cheers,

BambiBoom

CAD / 3D Modeling / Graphic Design:

HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) / 32GB DDR3 -1866 ECC RAM / Quadro K4200 (4GB) / Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI + Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) + Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]

Analysis / Simulation / Rendering:

HP z620 (2012) (Rev 2) 2X Xeon E5-2690 (8-core @ 2.9 / 3.8GHz) / 64GB DDR3-1600 ECC reg) / Quadro K2200 (4GB) / HP Z Turbo Drive (256GB) / 800W > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > HP 2711x (27" 1980 X 1080)
[ Passmark System Rating= 5675 / CPU= 22625 / 2D= 815 / 3D = 3580 / Mem = 2522 / Disk = 12640 ] 9.25.16




 
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