2k+ Budget - Video and 3D rendering

kinar100 · Oct 1, 2016

Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

Budget Range: 2-2.5k

System Usage: 3D rendering, animation, video editing

Buying monitor: No

Parts to upgrade: All

No OS:

Preferred website: N/A

Location: SoCal

PC Parts Picker link is below. Please let me know if anyone finds something I should change. Looking to drop on something like this this weekend to get ready for a big edit job next weekend. Thanks!

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4zdN6X

ryguybuddy · Oct 1, 2016

Are you gaming? Because a Quadro or workstation card will benefit u more.

kinar100 · Oct 1, 2016

ryguybuddy :

I will probably be doing minimal gaming if none at all aside from having an HTC Vive attached if at all. I was trying to do some research and saw the 1070/1080's are good overall on all ends.

Is there a comparable card that I can utilize better?

My main goal really is to get something I don't have to render over night with.

ryguybuddy · Oct 1, 2016

kinar100 :

ryguybuddy :

I will probably be doing minimal gaming if none at all aside from having an HTC Vive attached if at all. I was trying to do some research and saw the 1070/1080's are good overall on all ends.

Is there a comparable card that I can utilize better?

My main goal really is to get something I don't have to render over night with.

Okay. Give me some time

Mr Kagouris · Oct 1, 2016

It really depends on the software you're using, but you're better off with an i7 and a better GPU (Quadros won't benefit you unless you're using some rather specific applications). The GPU cores in Quadros are pretty much the same as those used in the GeForce cards, but Quadros mainly feature ECC VRAM, better drivers, and cherry-picked GPUs. This is because they are for the most part marketed towards some very lucrative customers who have pretty much 0 failure tolerance.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($428.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Taichi ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($328.27 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($315.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card ($606.00 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($115.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($109.98 @ My Choice Software)
Total: $2334.10

Overclocking the i7 in combination with a GTX 1080 will yield better performance than a 10-core Xeon and a GTX 1070 (just make sure you have GPU acceleration enabled in the software you use).

ryguybuddy · Oct 1, 2016

Mr Kagouris :

It really depends on the software you're using, but you're better off with an i7 and a better GPU (Quadros won't benefit you unless you're using some rather specific applications).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($428.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Taichi ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($328.27 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($315.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card ($606.00 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($115.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($109.98 @ My Choice Software)
Total: $2334.10

Overclocking the i7 in combination with a GTX 1080 will yield better performance than a 10-core Xeon and a GTX 1070 (just make sure you have GPU acceleration enabled in the software you use).

8 extra threads should be better than a higher clockspeed in rendering.

Mr Kagouris · Oct 1, 2016

ryguybuddy :

If you're rendering only with the CPU in a perfectly multi-threaded application sure, but that's not really the case. Video rendering benefits a lot more by GPU acceleration than it does from extra threads (to the point where extreme multi-core CPUs like the 14-22 cores actually have lesser performance to i7s because the apps are just not using the extra threads), and I'm not aware of any commercial 3D rendering applications that have good enough multi-threading for the 10-core Xeon to be more beneficial than a much better GPU.

ryguybuddy · Oct 1, 2016

What programs do you use?

kinar100 · Oct 1, 2016

Adobe Premier 60% of the time
Cinema 4D 30% of the time
After Effects 10% of the time

Mr Kagouris · Oct 1, 2016

Which render engine do you use with Cinema 4D? Both Premier and After Effects benefit more from a GeForce card as they support CUDA acceleration (not because Quadros perform worse, but because an equivalent Quadro would cost about 5 times as much).

ryguybuddy · Oct 1, 2016

What type of video? 4K?

kinar100 · Oct 1, 2016

Right now i'm forced to use Software. I'm getting a ton of errors in both Premier and Cinema 4D when I try to render with my current card (GTX 660 TI).

I will be using 4k, 6k and 8k Video (My roommate works for RED Cameras)

Mr Kagouris · Oct 1, 2016

Again, what render engine are you using with Cinema 4D? iRay?

ryguybuddy · Oct 1, 2016

8K video? Damn. I might suggest more than 64GB of RAM then.

Mr Kagouris · Oct 1, 2016

Agree, 64GB might not be enough since you say you'll be using 8K video and will be working on a big project soon.

ryguybuddy · Oct 1, 2016

Im not sure its possible to fit that in your budget.

Mr Kagouris · Oct 1, 2016

It's possible but the 950 Pro would have to be sacrificed in favor of a SATA SSD.

ryguybuddy · Oct 1, 2016

Mr Kagouris :

Yeah....

But that would make the export times and import times longer.

kinar100 · Oct 1, 2016

I am ok with the machine being good to great but not amazing right now. Our business is picking up rapidly and our overhead is so low that anything that comes in will go straight to machine uprades.

My current rig is hampering me too much so I am ok with something that will alleviate some of the stress and allow me to produce work faster.

Right now I am operating on this:

Intel Core i7-4790k 4.0ghz LGA 1150
ASRock z97 Extreme6 Socket LGA 1150 ATX Intel Motherboard
NVIDIA GTX 660 TI 2gb
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16gb DDR 3 1866 (2 x8gb)
2x Intel 730 Series 480gb 6gbs Internal Solid State drives (Raid 0)
NZXT Crafted Series Phantom ATX Full Tower Gaming Computer Case
Windows 10

Just looking to buy something today that will let me speed up render times and allow me to edit faster. We will have the ability to have 8k footage, I MIGHT utilize it but who knows. I have a big show coming up on Thursday-Sat that I'll need to edit a ton of video after as well as continue creating visuals/Cinema 4D content.

kinar100 · Oct 1, 2016

Mr Kagouris :

I haven't gone anything past physical/software with GI and AO.

I'd like to use the whatever the equivalent of mental ray is for Maya.

Mr Kagouris · Oct 1, 2016

ryguybuddy :

No, it wouldn't, no machine that doesn't need its own room can export projects at rates of 350-500 MB/s. If they did that would mean the render would take like 10 seconds.

I haven't gone anything past physical/software with GI and AO.

I'd like to use the whatever the equivalent of mental ray is for Maya.

Cinema 4D does support Mental Ray.

In conclusion you're better off with a GeForce card but you will have to enable CUDA acceleration in the software you use.

kinar100 · Oct 1, 2016

So you think the processor can change and I up the GeForce

Mr Kagouris · Oct 2, 2016

kinar100 :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($428.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Taichi ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($328.27 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($328.27 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($114.96 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card ($606.00 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($115.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($109.98 @ My Choice Software)
Total: $2462.33

kinar100 · Oct 2, 2016

Mr Kagouris :

kinar100 :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($428.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Taichi ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($328.27 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($328.27 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($114.96 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card ($606.00 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($115.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($109.98 @ My Choice Software)
Total: $2462.33

Is there a reason you didn't throw in an m2?

Also, should I still be using my Intel 730 480gb drives?

Mr Kagouris · Oct 2, 2016

I didn't throw in an NVMe M.2 drive to fit in the extra 64GB of RAM.

Yeah you can take any storage from your old rig to the new one.

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