NEW BUILD for 3D max and Octane render.

Viktor_ST · Oct 4, 2016

Used primarily for working on 3D max and Octane render.

Hey guys,

could someone please check for me this configuration:

CPU
Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler
ARCTIC Freezer i32 CPU Cooler
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD5 TH ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory
G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage
Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card
Case
Zalman ZM-Z9 NEO WH ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply
EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive
Asus DRW-24D5MT DVD/CD Writer

Eventually I left room for another 2x8GB RAM and new GPU, and later on I could swap them with two stronger ones like 2x Titanx.

Penny for Your thoughts..

Aeacus · Oct 5, 2016

For rendering the i7 series works betterly.

Here's a comparison to consider:
(For your rendering needs, the "Work" criteria matters the most.)
Userbenchmark PC Build Comparison
Baseline Bench: Game 76%, Desk 76%, Work 49%
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 €196
GPU: Nvidia GTX 970 €231
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB €89
RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 3000 C15 2x8GB €78
MBD: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD5 TH-CF
Total: €594

Alternative Bench: Game 96%, Desk 114%, Work 79%
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K €274
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB €216
SSD: Samsung SM951 NVMe PCIe M.2 256GB €160
RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 3000 C15 2x8GB €78
MBD: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD5 TH-CF
Total: €729

But if you go towards Nvidia Titan X Pascal then i suggest getting LGA2011-3 CPU and X-series MoBo with M.2 NVMe drive for much better rendering build.
Another comparison:
Userbenchmark PC Build Comparison
Baseline Bench: Game 76%, Desk 76%, Work 49%
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 €196
GPU: Nvidia GTX 970 €231
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB €89
RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 3000 C15 2x8GB €78
MBD: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD5 TH-CF
Total: €594

Alternative Bench: Game 96%, Desk 104%, Work 90%
CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K €374
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB €216
SSD: Samsung SM951 NVMe PCIe M.2 256GB €160
RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 3000 C15 2x8GB €78
MBD: Asrock X99 Extreme4 €182
Total: €1,012

Viktor_ST · Oct 5, 2016

Dude firstly thanks for the time put into this answer!

At your Alternative Bench GPU GTX 1060 6GB actually works slower because Octane is a GPU based render and so the speed is derived proportionally just by the number of cuda cores. On the other side 6GB add for another 9million of polygons that can be worked with in MAX compared to 4GB gtx970 has.

Will definitely look into LGA2011 socket.

Aeacus · Oct 5, 2016

LGA2011 socket CPUs are the most expensive ones out there but they are specifically made for number crunching, virtual machines, databases, audio/video encoding etc thanks to the high core and thread count in them.

You can also look into dual CPU motherboards with Intel C612 chipset for future upgrades. Here's one of them: Asus Z10PE-D16 WS
specs: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z10PED16_WS/
pcpp: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/4q4NnQ/asus-motherboard-z10ped16ws

Also look at the Intel Xeon E5 CPU series for some serius work.
Here's a nice list of all LGA2011 CPUs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_2011

Viktor_ST · Oct 6, 2016

Aeacus :

I checked the prices of some of those parts. A cheapest CPU I found is more then my hole system

..maybe some day..but still tnx for the info!

Aeacus · Oct 6, 2016

If you go with LGA1151 socket then i7-6700K is currently the best Skylake CPU for rendering. This also sets you up for the future Kaby Lake and Cannonlake CPUs from Intel.

Going with LGA 2011-3 socket and the i7-6800K Broadwell-E CPU gives you much better rendering performance. This path sets you up for the future upgrade to the Intel Xeon CPU series for high end rendering build.

Edit:
And now for the prices (in USD).

i7-6700K build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.33 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($89.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($83.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($188.01 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB 6GT OC Video Card ($258.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1148.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-06 07:42 EDT-0400

Put in high performance CPU cooler from Noctua (it's aesthetics isn't the best though).
I changed the MoBo to MSI while keeping the M.2 and SLI features but with cheaper price than Gigabyte.
Also changed the PSU for much better unit from Seasonic. (EVGA buys all their PSUs from Seasonic, FSP, Super Flower and Compucase. While Seasonic is OEM and makes their own PSUs.)
Since computer case is more of a personal choise, i didn't include one into the list.

And i7-6800K build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($428.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.33 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI PLUS ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($185.50 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($83.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($188.01 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB 6GT OC Video Card ($258.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1343.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-06 07:46 EDT-0400

Only the CPU and MoBo was changed compared to the i7-6700K build.
MoBo has M.2 socket, 8 RAM slots and 3-way SLI support.

Viktor_ST · Oct 6, 2016

I have decide to go towards LGA1151 build. A lot cheaper and gives me a lot of room to upgrade before it gets outdated.

VGAs will be upgraded eventually but considering mainly the number of cuda cores, 1070/80 or even titan x if the prices drop low enough.

I was wondering why did you chose that SSD 950 over SM951. Bouth are Nmve but later one is cheaper and faster.

Once again I appreciate the time put into these answers

Aeacus · Oct 6, 2016

Viktor_ST :

I did not pick the 950 Pro.

If you check the part # at pcpp then you'll see that it's: MZVPV256HDGL-00000 and thus it's the SM951.
950 Pro part # is: MZ-V5P256BW

Viktor_ST · Oct 7, 2016

Oh I see. My bad.

You said:

Put in high performance CPU cooler from Noctua (it's aesthetics isn't the best though). - The one I chose doesnt run the fan if not needed, but cools passively witch i think is nice advantage over most of them. Plus 6 years or warranty.

Also changed the PSU for much better unit from Seasonic. (EVGA buys all their PSUs from Seasonic, FSP, Super Flower and Compucase. While Seasonic is OEM and makes their own PSUs.) - That particular EVGAs PSU has best reviews all over the internet and 10y of warranty says a lot. I see that Seasonics are a bit cheaper, so I was wondering in your opinion are they as good or even better prehaps?

King Dranzer · Oct 7, 2016

What is your budget for it??

Viktor_ST · Oct 7, 2016

1300€ which is 1500$

King Dranzer · Oct 7, 2016

Here is the build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($72.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($629.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1467.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-07 07:51 EDT-0400

Get the GTX1080 as it performs very well 3D MAX and Octane Rendering. It will you very huge boost over GTX1060. To be honest TITAN X PASCAL is perfect suited and is made for professional use like this. But your budget is not allowing it so get atleast a GTX1080.

If still your budget is not allowing then drop down to i5-6600K as that applications are GPU intense not CPU so there will only be a small performance drop.(Try Getting i7-6700K and GTX1080)

Aeacus · Oct 7, 2016

Viktor_ST :

Every CPU cooler that has PWM fan can be set so that it doesn't run when temps are low and starts running once certain temperature is reached.
According to the reasearch made, Noctuna has better cooling capacity since it has dual radiator with dual 140mm fan and also a 6 year warranty.
Since you're getting K-series CPU with unlocked multiplier for overclocking, there is a suggestion for CPU cooling from worst to best that goes as follows: Intel's stock cooler -> Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO -> Noctua NH-D15 -> NZXT x61 Kraken -> custom made water cooling loop.

But when it comes down to a personal choise then i too prefer Arctic Freezer i32. I like it's classic looks, it's fluid dynamic bearing fan (which is very quiet and long lasting) and the nice ability to upgrade it from push system to push-pull system with any 120mm fan.

Viktor_ST :

As stated above, EVGA buys all their PSUs from OEMs. That means that if OEM decides to sell it's own product, it can do it with cheaper price that the other company that has to buy the PSU from OEM and rebrand it, while still making profit, thus the PSU they sell, compared to the OEM, is more expensive.
Little example: OEM makes a PSU and sells it to consumers for $200. The same PSU is bought by EVGA with $100. Since EVGA also needs to make a profit, they sell it to consumers for $220.

Did some research and the PSU you're planning to buy is EVGA Supernova G2 850W that is bought from Super Flower. Super Flower itself does sell the 850W unit directly, under a name of Super Flower Leadex Gold 850W.

Took me some serious searching to find Super Flower PSUs on sale outside Taiwan.
Super Flower Leadex Gold 850W with 144.90€
link: https://www.caseking.de/en/super-flower-leadex-80-plus-gold-netzteil-schwarz-850-watt-nesf-026.html
EVGA Supernova G2 850W with 159.90€
link: https://www.caseking.de/en/evga-supernova-g2l-80-plus-gold-netzteil-modular-850-watt-neev-038.html

As far as PSUs go, i like to buy my units directly from OEM, without the middleman. I prefer Seasonic since they are the oldest PSU OEM, being in the business for over 40 years. <- that's a lot of experience.

Warranty alone doesn't say anything about the PSU quality and it's lifespan. You have to look at MTBF (mean time between failures) rating, where higher MTBF ratings indicate longer device life and better reliability. EVGA Supernova G2 850W has MTBF of 100.000 hours while Seasonic X-750 has MTBF of 150.000 hours.

Since you live in Europe, i put my build list into euros by selecting pcpp France (other options are Germany, Spain, Italy and United Kingdom).

i7-6700K build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (€348.90 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer i32 CPU Cooler (€29.24 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€135.89 @ Amazon France)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€104.49 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Samsung 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€169.90)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB 6GT OC Video Card (€326.85 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€182.30 @ Amazon France)
Total: €1297.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-07 17:19 CEST+0200

Switched out CPU cooler to Arctic Freezer i32. Since there isn't any price for M.2 SSD at pcpp France, i took it's price from my country importer's website (in Estonia).

And here's i7-6800K build in euros aswell:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (€456.20)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer i32 CPU Cooler (€29.24 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI PLUS ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard (€229.99 @ Amazon France)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€104.49 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Samsung 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€169.90)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB 6GT OC Video Card (€326.85 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€182.30 @ Amazon France)
Total: €1498.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-07 17:39 CEST+0200

Again, switched out CPU cooler to the Arctic Freezer i32. Since there is no price for CPU at pcpp France, i took it's price from the same source from where i took the M.2 SSD price.

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