What will Intel use to compete with the upcoming Zen CPU's?

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I don't think Intel needs to worry about competing against AMD's Zen. Sure, they will likely loose some market to AMD, but if you already dominate most of the the market share, it more likely that a company will loose some of it when the competition releases a new product.

Most people don't need 8 cores since what they do does not benefit from having so many cores. What's more important is IPC performance. As long as Zen can compete against 3rd / 4th generation Intel CPU, I would consider that to be good enough for AMD to continue to remain in business and grab market share away from Intel.

Let's face it AMD is behind the 8-ball and it will likely be there for a while longer. AMD has lost significant market share to both Intel and...
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Probably Kabylake, although I'm a bit suspicious about Zen. RX480 was promising a lot and the GTX1060 is still a better option, sometimes even cheaper (Gigabyte G1). I've been a long time AMD fan and I'm slowly shifting to the blue/green team. Cooler, better power efficiency, better single core performance.

I'm sure Zen will massively improve AMD's currents state on the CPU market but and will as always dominate in the low/mid range market, but for high end I highly doubt AMD will ever beat the i5 series (not to mention i7).

Remember, this is coming from a longtime AMD fan.
 
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It's almost a certainty that Zen cores will be slower per clock, and clocked lower. Intel is likely going to compete in multithreaded performance with their 6-core CPUs, while holding a respectable lead in single-threaded performance.
 
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AMD need to compete with Intel, not the other way around. To be fair to AMD, Intel spend more on R&D than AMD make in profit, and AMD's huge debt isn't doing them any favours either.

I doubt that Brian Krzanich is worried by Zen, but Snapdragon and other SoC manufacturers are another story.
 
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Intel introduced broadwell-e on the 2011(3) socket , they are obviously waiting for AMD to launch zen so that they get to launch the equivalent of sky lake for that socket , and AMD is prolonging the wait for the same reason :)
 
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I don't think Intel needs to worry about competing against AMD's Zen. Sure, they will likely loose some market to AMD, but if you already dominate most of the the market share, it more likely that a company will loose some of it when the competition releases a new product.

Most people don't need 8 cores since what they do does not benefit from having so many cores. What's more important is IPC performance. As long as Zen can compete against 3rd / 4th generation Intel CPU, I would consider that to be good enough for AMD to continue to remain in business and grab market share away from Intel.

Let's face it AMD is behind the 8-ball and it will likely be there for a while longer. AMD has lost significant market share to both Intel and nVidia, on top of that they have accumulated a lot of debt which is coming due relatively soon. As long as they can compete will enough against Intel and nVidia and generate enough gross revenues to pay off their looming debt over the next several years, I consider that to be a major win for AMD.
 
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If zen can manage has well i5 performance for less, and they keep power/heat down, it'll be a nice option for those on a budget, given has well i5s are more than enough for todays games. Essentially, it'll put amd a year behind rather than 5.

I REALLY hope it does well, as I hate how intel dominates...never good for consumers.
 
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"What will Intel use to compete with the upcoming Zen CPU's? "
optane ssds/3dxpoint...
Anything that benefits from lots of cores,video transcoding,3d render,data base,compiling even general everyday multitasking needs to read huge amounts of data and 3d xpoint will make this so much faster,3d xpoint will give a huge boost to kabylake in anything a 8c/16t ZEN might be good in.
 
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