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Hi All,
We are getting ready to order a gaming pc for our son. (please dont judge) Please take a look at the build sheet and tell us what you think? Noobie alert: We have done some research, but in no way do we know what we are doing. ;) Budget is $2500 for pc and monitor, taxes, shipping and everything out-the-door. (the monitor is 700 with tax (Dell Gaming s2716dg with gsync), so that leaves 1800 for pc) We know we could get better parts and save $ if we did the build, just dont have the time nor the patience. We are trying for a set-up which will be able to play new games at 1440 with very high fps. It needs to be upgrade-able so he can do future upgrades himself when necessary. This unit will be used predominately for gaming. We are hoping the system will last 4-5+ years without major upgrades needed. Let us know if anything is needed, overkill, not necessary or a complete waste of $, we can still make changes to make sure we get it right! Our son is an avid gamer with 10-15 steam games on his current set-up. Overwatch and Uncharted4 are recent favs.
He has the other gaming peripherals already. The ssd's and I5 vs i7 have been the source of most of our questions? Should we cut back on the ssd space and upgrade the cpu?Other questions are: Is everything going to work well together? Should we ditch the optical drive altogether and go with a NZXT case and lose the extra fans? Will VR be quick and easy if he gets into that? Thank you for any feedback! and please be nice, we would like to read through the advice with our son...

Here's how the system looks now:

CAS: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ USB 3.0, Side-Panel Window (Black + Dual Full size Tempered Glass window Panels)

CD: ASUS 24X Internal multi DVD-Writer / 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R (BLACK COLOR)

CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i5-6600K 3.50GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Skylake)

CS_FAN: 3X Corsair AIR Series AF120 Performance Edition 120MM High Airflow Case Fans

FAN: NZXT Kraken X31 120mm Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate - Extreme Cooling Performance (Single Standard 120MM Fan)

FREEBIE_VC1: FREE! Gears of War 4

HD_M2SSD: 512GB Intel® SSD 600p Series PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD - 1800MB/s Read & 560MB/s Write(Single Drive)

HDD: 500GB Samsung 750 EVO Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 540MB/s Read & 520MB/s Write (Single Drive)

MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3000MHz Dual Channel Memory (ADATA XPG Z1)

MOTHERBOARD: GIGABYTE GA-Z170X GAMING 3 ATX w/ USB 3.1, 3 PCIe x16, 3 PCIe x1, 3 SATA Express, 6 SATA3, 2 Ultra M.2

OS: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition)

OVERCLOCK: Pro OC (Performance Overclock 10% or more)

POWERSUPPLY: 750 Watts - EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G1 80 PLUS Gold Power Supply

VIDEO: EVGA GeForce® GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0 Edition 8GB GDDR5 (Pascal)[VR Ready] (Single Card)

+$100 towards windows store for games

Thanks again for any feedback!
 
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OVERCLOCK: Pro OC (Performance Overclock 10% or more)

^ is this a prebuilt system?

everything looks fine and is quality though i would personally change a few things.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X31 69.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($68.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($95.91 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate...
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HI, thanks! here are the other options for psu. The EVGA GS 1050W is only $33 more and in budget, but twice the power needed. Will that cause any problems?

550 Watts - XFX TS Series 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Power Supply [-36]
550 Watts - Thermaltake Toughpower - 80 PLUS Gold, Semi Modular Power Supply [+2]
600 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready [-56][Columbus Day Mega Sales - Free upgrade from 350 Watt]
600 Watts - EVGA 600 80 PLUS Power Supply [-36]
650 Watts - Corsair CX650M CX Series Modular 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply [-20]
650 Watts - Corsair CSM Series CS650M 80 Plus Gold Certified Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply [+16]
650 Watts - Corsair RMi Series RM650i 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Fully Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply [+43]
750 Watts - Thermaltake SMART Series SP-750PCBUS 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply [-18]
750 Watts - Corsair CX750M CX Series Modular 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply [+0]
750 Watts - Corsair CSM Series CS750M 80 Plus Gold Certified Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply [+25]
750 Watts - Corsair RMi Series RM750i 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Fully Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply [+54]
750 Watts - EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G1 80 PLUS Gold Power Supply
750 Watts - IN WIN Classic C750W Aluminum, 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply [+47]
750 Watts - Thermaltake Toughpower - 80 PLUS Gold, Semi Modular Power Supply [+2][Columbus Day Mega Sales - Free upgrade from 550W Tt Toughpower]
800 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready [-48][Columbus Day Mega Sales - Free upgrade from Corsair CX430 V2 430 Watt]
850 Watts - EVGA 850W GQ 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [+33]
850 Watts - Corsair CSM Series CS850M 80 Plus Gold Certified Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply [+54]
850 Watts - Corsair RMi Series RM850i 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Fully Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply [+74]
900 Watts - IN WIN Classic C900W Aluminum, 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply [+73]
1,000 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [-40][Columbus Day Mega Sales - Free upgrade from 500Watt EVGA]
1,000 Watts - Corsair RMx RM1000X 80 PLUS Gold certified Fully Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply [+61]
1,000 Watts - Corsair RMi Series RM1000i 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Fully Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply [+84]
1050 Watts - EVGA SuperNOVA 1050 GS 80 Plus GOLD Certified Fully Modular NVIDIA SLI and Crossfire Ready Power Supply [+33][Columbus Day Mega Sales - Free upgrade from 850 Watt EVGA GQ 80 Plus Gold]
1050 Watts - Thermaltake DPS G 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Digital Fully Modular Power Supply [+107]
1,200 Watts - Corsair AXi AX1200i 1200W Digital 80 PLUS PLATINUM CertifiedFull Modular Active PFC Power Supply [+259]
 
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The new Corsair CXM 650 series are pretty good units and would save some money. If being non-modular isn't a concern, even the XFX TS 550 is a good quality PSU and would work. You could use a larger PSU than needed, but a 1050 seems like overkill and will mostly operate outside of its efficiency range.
 
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OVERCLOCK: Pro OC (Performance Overclock 10% or more)

^ is this a prebuilt system?

everything looks fine and is quality though i would personally change a few things.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X31 69.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($68.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($95.91 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($77.78 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-16D1HT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($40.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-140 66.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($11.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1433.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-07 21:57 EDT-0400

+$700 for the monitor and you are at $2133 and change and still far away from $2500. i picked the fractal r5 because it is very quiet, has 2 preinstalled 140mm fans, and allows for an optical drive. you are welcome to go with the enthoo pro m, just add a single matching 140mm fan to its existing two for a total of three. if you can live without the optical drive i would go with the nzxt h440 red/black since it matches the red/black theme components i picked out. it already has four case fans so you wouldn't need any more, except to re-arange them for the x31. but really you have the budget for the x61 240mm radiator and all three cases will easily accept it.
 
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Thanks, just want to be sure. the first one?

650 Watts - Corsair CX650M CX Series Modular 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply [-20]
650 Watts - Corsair CSM Series CS650M 80 Plus Gold Certified Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply [+16]
 
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hi, yes we are ordering it online.

Please let us know what you would change? the more info the better...

Thanks
 
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if you can live without the optical drive....

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($114.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($95.91 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H440 (Matte Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($110.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1464.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-07 22:08 EDT-0400

seriously you shouldn't be buying prebuilt online with your budget. you can get quite a bit better quality overall for your money. plus building with your son would be a fun experience. there are quite a few tutorials on youtube from popular sites that offer very easy instruction. it really isn't that hard at all, especially when you will be using higher end components.
 
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out of all those....
850 Watts - EVGA 850W GQ 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [+33]

the xfx ts, evga gq and gs, and corsair rmx, rmi, and axi are quality units. the rest are not ideal for a high end system so please dont consider them.
 
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Hi! and thank you for your response.

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will those parts in your list perform as well as our orig. list? are they as upgrade-able?

I have been considering building it w/ my son, but just dont want to run into any crazy problems that could be a headache.
we have never built a gaming pc before...i know it should be easy (famous last words)
does using high end components really simplify it?
is installing the os w/o an optical drive troublesome?
can we overclock the cpu easily w/o risk of damage?

it looks like if we went with your list we could upgrade the cpu, go with a better h2o cooler and maybe even go with a 1080? all for the same $? the goal is to make a unit he can use for a long time w/o any issues...
 
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many of the parts are the same as the ones from your prebuilt list... except as you already noticed the upgraded components.

as far as ease of installation, the issues people run into 99% of the time are related to the case and power supply being of lower quality and or not as adaptable making for a tight fit and or cables not doing what you want them to do. the evga g2 power supply i picked is made by superflower and is among the best quality power supplies you can possibly purchase and comes with an array of fully modular cables that you can switch out for different length as needed. highly rated cases like the enthoo pro m you picked or the fractal r5 and nzxt h440 are all easy to build inside with a thoughtful layout, plenty of room, and easy access to all mounting points. from there cables only plug into one place so you cannot accidentally plug something in wrong.

even if you can afford the 1080 i would suggest going with the 1070 anyways since it offers ideal price to performance.
 
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As for Buying a prebuilt Custom online, most are good, but from my experience, I would not buy a CyberPower. Seen far too many complaints.
 
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