GTX970 - FX8350 - GTX1070 1080P - 144hz

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I have been reading some threads about bottlenecking. Especially the ones about an FX 8350 bottlenecking the GTX 1070. I still couldn't figure out an answer to my question.

I can only game at 1080p for the moment and not really interested in gaming at 4K, I prefer 1080 at 144hz as I prefer fluency in games than exaggerated resolutions. 1080p is good enough. So that being said, my games will always run at 1080 not 1440p or 4k. Which logically should get me more FPS..

QUESTION:
I'm thinking about upgrading from a 970GTX to an 1070GTX, with my CPU being an FX8350.
Now, I know it's gonna bottleneck it, which means I'm not gonna be able to have the full FPS that a 1070 can provide, but my question is, WILL I get a (significant) FPS increase or will I stay in the same range as a 970GTX (due to my fx8350)? Is it possible that I get worse FPS? ( I read some people did so..).

The plan is to get as much FPS as possible staying on 1080p, as I have a 144hz screen on which I'd like to see these 60+ FPS (fluency!). Ofcourse games maxed out, maybe a few configurations to get it at min. 60FPS, a few FPS drops are okay as it happens in all games..

I play games like BF4, Witcher 3, MAFIAIII (soon ^^), GTA V, Attilla RTW, Shadow of mordor, probably more to come 0_°

Thanks for your time, and thanks for an opinion.
Kind regards
 
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You will be better off upgrading your CPU and MB IMO. the 970 is still a prety decent card and can hold you with pretty good fps with good quality in most games, with a CPU upgrade. My guess is that you will see a bigger imediate performance increase with a good CPU rather than with a 1070 on that rig.
the 500€ you will pay for a 1070 get you a i5 6600k or i7 6700k with a pretty decent z170 mb.
That will hold you up for a few months until you have spared enough money for a 1070.
why would you only want 60fps on a 144HZ screen?^^

in games where your 970 can't deliver more than it does you'll see significant improvment
in games where your CPU limits you severely the 1070 won't do much

start games, turn off all eye candy and detail levels and see how many fps you're getting.
this will most likely be the amount you'll get with a 1070 @max settings
 
You will be better off upgrading your CPU and MB IMO. the 970 is still a prety decent card and can hold you with pretty good fps with good quality in most games, with a CPU upgrade. My guess is that you will see a bigger imediate performance increase with a good CPU rather than with a 1070 on that rig.
the 500€ you will pay for a 1070 get you a i5 6600k or i7 6700k with a pretty decent z170 mb.
That will hold you up for a few months until you have spared enough money for a 1070.
 
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MYELbe

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60+ FPS so more than 60 FPS!! :p ofcourse I want more than 60 fps on 144hz screen that's the plan:p

 

MYELbe

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I was thinking about the opposite, upgrading the GPU, and use it in a new build later on. But you have point, you think I'd have more FPS increases with a better MOBO and CPU than GPU increase?

 
If you buy a new GPU and your CPU bottlenecks it you won´t see much of an increase anyway.
I´ll give you my example.
My old CPU i3 550@ 3.20Ghz with a 750Ti: BO3 at medium/high with ~60fps.
New CPU i7 6700k@4Ghz with a 750 Ti: BO3 at medium/high with ~90fps

New CPU i7 6700k@4Ghz with 1070: BO3 all max at 100fps

the 1070 in my old CPU would probably perform the same as my 750Ti due to bottleneck..

See my point?
 

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I do see your point yes, and I think you're right it'd be smarter to upgrade CPU and MOBO first to get the full potential of the system, and later upgrade the GPU. Sooner or later you'll have to upgrade the CPU so..

 

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So if I get this right, I'd have to lower everything to see what the FPS cap is form a CPU point of view?
 


exactly. with low settings you'll see where your CPU limit is.
if you can't hit a decent fps-amount then upgrade your CPU
as the CPU will bottleneck the 1070 the max fps displayed at low settings will be as high as it gets
so if you hit 85fps on low and add a 1070 the 1070 will hit 85 on max settings due to CPU restriction
if you hit steady 150 fps with the FX8350, a 1070 will do as well in the build
 

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I get 90-120 fps in BF4 all maxed, it's a less cpu-heavy game isn't it?

Are witcher 3, GTA no GPU-heavy games then? give me an example of a GPU heavy game but not CPU heavy so i get an idea
 

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hmm, it's really clearing up guys thanks. So it's possible that I don't even see the Full FPS potential of my Gtx970 because of that CPU?
anyway I got my answer now, upgrading to a 1070 will give me an FPS boost but will be limited due to my CPU, so from this point of view it's def. more interesting to upgrade the CPU (first) to unlock these extra FPS when upgrading to a new graphic card or even see the full potential of my current GPU.