Upgrade from AMD ATHLON II X4 645

Marcel_12 · Oct 10, 2016

Hello,

I want to upgrade my build up to 220 pounds.

Cpu athlon ii x4 645
Gpu gtx 960 4gb
Monitor t27b300
2x4GB DDR3 RAM
M5A78L-M/USB3 motherboard am3+ support

Any good suggestions for an upgrade of the cpu and motherboard ofcourse UP TO 220 GBP.

Im thinking about an i5-4460, or just an FX processor to save up on the motherboard costs, but dont know if it will last its value

unclemao · Oct 10, 2016

a word of advice, when ZEN cpus come out cpus all together will be cheaper and you'll have alot more options, and you'll get alot more bang for your buck i would hold of and wait for ZEN to come out,

Marcel_12 · Oct 10, 2016

But is it worth it to wait for another AMD platform, im looking to upgrade the specs for gaming specifically and thats why im condiering an intel platform.

simon12 · Oct 10, 2016

An FX 6xxx series should keep up with your graphics card and save money compared to an intel switch but if your going to upgrade the GPU in the next year an i5 would make more sense. If your not in a hurry wait and see how Zen performs and is priced.

madmatt30 · Oct 10, 2016

I'm running an fx 6300 on that board clocked at 4.4ghz
Its enough to power a 970 easily at that speed key alone a 960.

The choice is yours here , you can go quick easy upgrade for half your budget

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£83.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: RAIJINTEK PALLAS 56.5 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£29.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £112.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-10 18:16 BST+0100

Or spend more & maybe buy windows again or a definite reinstall at the very least.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£92.91 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£57.07 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£40.66 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £190.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-10 18:18 BST+0100

The i3 6100 is obviously a more future proof choice , it just depends how much work you want to put in now.

Marcel_12 · Oct 10, 2016

Do you think the i3 is worth it? theoratically i downgrade from 4 cores to 2cores and 4 threads

madmatt30 · Oct 10, 2016

Marcel_12 :

It is upto you .
Are you happy with 50-60fps gaming wise ??
The pallas,a 6300, a gtx 970 & that little asus board are what Im running at 4.4ghz daily with very little reason to upgrade for maybe the next 2 years - Its just a easy quick option for you.
Does the 6100 perform better in games ?? yes it does but at the end of the day the 960 is going to be your limitation.

Are you going to upgrade the gpu to something high end in the recent future ?? do you mind doing a complete fresh windows install if moving to an intel based system because its a 100% necessity at the very minimum.

Those are the main questions.

Marcel_12 · Oct 10, 2016

Im fine with reinstalling windows and im not planning to change my GPU for at least a couple of years. So i guess going witht he i3 makes sense for future upgrades if needed. Do all motherboard support front panel USBs and mic/speaker jacks - i will have to consider then whilist buying a new mobo for my case

someguywholikescomputers · Oct 10, 2016

fx 8350?

Marcel_12 · Oct 10, 2016

I dont really wanna stick with an AMD platform in case of future upgrades since im not experienced at overclocking and AMD processors are made to be overclocked, thats why im wondering if i shall get an i5-4460 or the i3-6100

But thinking about it, i may keep the FX platform if my Motherboard is sufficient for a decent overclock, i'm aiming to achieve an av. FPS of 60 in games like Overwatch, rocket league etc.

EDIT: I dont think my motherboard support 8 core processors like fx-8350 , may be wrong tho

someguywholikescomputers · Oct 10, 2016

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130895&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Motherboards+-+Intel-_-N82E16813130895&gclid=CjwKEAjw-Oy_BRDg4Iqok57a4kcSJADsuDK1b1d-Gm8BDnSyRu3nLHGAPf2KVEZZX7kZzhCM8huMdBoCy-vw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds motherboard, and i5 6600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117562&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Processors+-+Desktops-_-N82E16819117562&gclid=CjwKEAjw-Oy_BRDg4Iqok57a4kcSJADsuDK1oYLjnO4ddJYHXzSw_2omof4P6bY6xKg7VcKnFI0xyRoCRazw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
should be just about 220 gbp. my brother uses i5 6600 with gtx 970 and he can get a good 80fps on high so im guessing i5 6600 with 960 you'd get a steady 60+ fps

Marcel_12 · Oct 10, 2016

someguywholikescomputers :

If i wanna go skylake i will have to switch to ddr4 memory as well surely?

someguywholikescomputers · Oct 10, 2016

Marcel_12 :

your motherboard does support it i checked it out, chipset and socket should work ram too

madmatt30 · Oct 10, 2016

someguywholikescomputers :

not comparable to uk prices unfortunately,+ you need to add ddr4 ram at about 40 ukpounds.

someguywholikescomputers · Oct 10, 2016

im trying to figure with your prices but why not add the ram too? for extra 50$ itd be worth it.. i think..... or you could go with the fx8350

madmatt30 · Oct 10, 2016

Marcel_12 :

you can run an 8320 at stock speeds on the asus with the right cooler.
Im telling you now though that a 6300 & the pallas is the optimum for you on that board.
Because its a 95w 6 core there is headroom for overclocking.
a 6300 at 4.2/4.3ghz will beat an 8320 & probably an 8350 at stock in gaming.

someguywholikescomputers · Oct 10, 2016

http://www.ebay.com/itm/G-SKILL-Ripjaws-V-Series-8GB-2-x-4GB-DDR4-2400-Desktop-Memory-/252568616547?hash=item3ace433e63:g:vmsAAOSwNRdX8brp you could find ram on ebay for cheap i find a lot of stuff on ebay for cheap... i got a titan for 200$ yesterday.

someguywholikescomputers · Oct 10, 2016

madmatt30 :

Marcel_12 :

you can run an 8320 at stock speeds on the asus with the right cooler.
Im telling you now though that a 6300 & the pallas is the optimum for you on that board.
Because its a 95w 6 core there is headroom for overclocking.
a 6300 at 4.2/4.3ghz will beat an 8320 & probably an 8350 at stock in gaming.

what about an overclocked fx 8350? if a 6300 can be overclocked why not the 8350?

someguywholikescomputers · Oct 10, 2016

like comparing an overclocked gtx 580 to a 650 obviously overclocked is better

Marcel_12 · Oct 10, 2016

would the 6300 last for a couple of years for 60+fps gaming?

someguywholikescomputers · Oct 10, 2016

maybe 1 or 2 years but the games keep getting more tasking, i would say yes but you're gonna have to upgrade soon

Marcel_12 · Oct 10, 2016

might as well save up a bit more and go for the i5-6500

can i run DDR3 memory with and i5-6500?

someguywholikescomputers · Oct 10, 2016

dont know, good luck.

simon12 · Oct 10, 2016

You can buy only if you buy one of the few motherboards that support it and it needs to be low voltage DDR3 memory

Supernova1138 · Oct 10, 2016

someguywholikescomputers :

The motherboard the OP has is a low end board with weak VRMs, it would struggle to run the FX 8350 at even stock speeds due to the high power draw causing the VRMs to overheat. To overclock an FX 8350 would require a new motherboard as well and there is no point in buying a new AM3+ board at this stage, not when the platform is 5 years old and its successor is right around the corner.

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