Please help with PC Build - Video/photo editing first, gaming second, preferably under $1,500 budget (Canadian)

lthos1

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Hi Everyone,

I am trying to put together a good build for my needs with no recent experience and I am having a hard time figuring out the sweet spot between overkill and not enough power. Any help from the experts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time and efforts!

Approximate Purchase Date: Between now and the end of October.

Budget Range: $1,000 - $2,000 (Canadian). I know this is a wide range - I am actually pretty flexible on budget, but the primary purpose is work related and as such I need to minimize my costs as much as possible. As I said above, I am trying to find that sweet spot between performance and budget for my specific needs.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: I run a business that requires video/photo editing for marketing purposes but my actual business is not video/photo editing. I will primarily be editing 1080p DSLR footage. The bulk of my content with be in the form of 5-20 minute video clips for youtube. Mostly I will be using Premiere and Photoshop while occasionally dabbling in After Effects. I would like to get 4-5 years out of this build if possible for these purposes. The demographic that I am targeting will not be too picky between 1080p and 4k for at least the next few years, but if there was potential for 4k in the future that would be a plus.

Once I have met the above requirements, I would like the ability to play some games on the side. I feel that the build that will meet the above requirements should be fine for my gaming needs, but my hope would be to play most current and new games for the next year or two in high settings.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I will be purchasing the parts from Ncix.ca so they need to be available there, however I believe they price match other Canadian retailers, so newegg.ca would work for pricing as well.

Location: Toronto, Canada

Overclocking: I don't think so. I plan to have this PC built by NCIX. Perhaps this will elicit debate, but I am not a PC enthusiast, I just want to have control over the components that will go into this PC. If anyone has an alternative suggestion in Canada I am open to it. So they will not overclock and I don't expect that I will want to get involved in this myself - my time needs to be primarily invested in my business.

SLI or Crossfire: No.

Your Monitor Resolution: Open to suggestions. From a gaming standpoint, I won't be playing anything competitive. I will play some FPS, and lower input lag would be nice, but again video and photo editing will be my priority here, along with screen real estate as I will be doing a significant amount of multitasking. Likely going to go for a dual screen set up, but if I can get this build with just 1 monitor within my ideal budget ($1500 or less) that would work for now.

Additional Comments: I have been debating between an i7-6700 and i7-6700k. I don't really intend to overclock though I know it is nice to have options in the future. It would depend on the overall price savings - there is a $50 difference in price in Canada, however motherboard, cooling, etc all add up as well. I think a Geforce 1060 should do for my needs, but again I am open to suggestions. What are thoughts on saving $50 between the 3gb and 6gb? Also I think 16gb of RAM should be good, but again I am open to suggestions.

So I think that covers it. I really appreciate the help from anyone who takes the time.

Cheers!
 

Aeacus

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How about this dual monitor build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($439.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.75 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($105.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($108.77 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.94 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($338.99 @ NCIX)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($177.00 @ shopRBC)
Monitor: AOC E2425SWD 24.0" 60Hz Monitor ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Monitor: AOC E2425SWD 24.0" 60Hz Monitor ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1808.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-11 03:08 EDT-0400

Few words also.

This build fully supports OC (overclocking) CPU, GPU and RAM. Put in 16GB of RAM, with base frequency of 2133 Mhz but with OC, up to 3200 Mhz. Also left 2 RAM slots free just in case you need more RAM in the future. Storage wise, put in SSD for OS and HDD for storage. Also included two 24", 1080p, 60Hz monitors for your work.

Edit:
And a 2nd, high end, single monitor build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($566.50 @ shopRBC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.75 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: MSI X99A Raider ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($249.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.94 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($338.99 @ NCIX)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($177.00 @ shopRBC)
Monitor: AOC e2752She 27.0" 60Hz Monitor ($219.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1996.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-11 03:29 EDT-0400

Again, few words.

CPU is LGA2011-3 socket and made specifically for video rendering works. MoBo comes with 8 RAM slots for future upgrades. Put in 2x 8GB of RAM to get you going, with max speed of 3000 Mhz. The rest is same as in previous build, except the monitor. This time went with single monitor but with a 27" screen.

Here's also a bench between the two builds.

Userbenchmark PC Build Comparison

Baseline Bench: Game 88%, Desk 89%, Work 67%
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB
SSD: Samsung 750 EVO 250GB
HDD: WD Blue 1TB (2012)
RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB

Alternative Bench: Game 89%, Desk 83%, Work 78%
CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB
SSD: Samsung 750 EVO 250GB
HDD: WD Blue 1TB (2012)
RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 3000 C15 2x8GB

The difference between the two builds aren't that big, but atleast it's something to think about.
Upgrade wise, 2nd build benefits more since you can put much more RAM into it and MoBo also supports the high end Intel Xeon CPUs.
 
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I think you're pretty much spot on with what you're considering. I would opt for the locked version since overclocking isn't necessary, and put the money towards a better monitor and storage for productivity.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($399.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Asus B150M-A/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($92.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($338.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Monitor: Asus VC279H 27.0" 60Hz Monitor ($249.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1816.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-11 04:01 EDT-0400
 

lthos1

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Thank you for the responses guys. If you don't mind, I have a couple of quick follow up questions.

In the case of the 6700k build, would the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO and SeaSonic S12II 520W be suitable for an overclock if I went that route?

Regarding the 6700 build, I have never used a SSD before. Is there any way you can quantify the type of differences I would see using the Samsung 950 Pro vs. the Samsung 750 series SSD? In what applications would I see the difference and what type of speed would we be talking about?

Finally, would an overclock of the 6700k to 4.4Ghz be a 25-30% increase in performance over the 6700 3.4? I know it isn't likely a direct correlation, but I am just trying to quantify the performance difference I could be looking at between the two.

Thank you again guys, I appreciate the responses!
 
The EVO 212 and S12II 520 would both be adequate for your build with a moderate overclock. I use the same PSU in my overclocked build. The difference between the 750 and 950 SSD's won't be as dramatic as the difference between as SSD and an HDD, but it's substantial. You see the increase in performance when booting, opening apps, running virus scans, etc. The system just feels more responsive and it would be hard going back to an HDD alone. An SSD can be four or times faster than a good HDD. An NVMe drive can be 4 or 5 times faster than a typical SSD. This is meaningful when working for large files. When working with smaller files, the difference in SSD's isn't as pronounced since a standard SSD is relatively quick. If completing ask only takes 500 ms with a SATA SSD, completing it in 100 ms isn't perceived as a big difference.

As far as the overclocking goes, some games will have increased FPS due to the overclock, others not. Just depends on the game. In applications such as photo and video editing, the overclock can help as well, but like you said, a 30% increase in clocks isn't likely to reduce render times by 30%.

I suggested a fast storage system since you will likely be working with larger files, and it will help with productivity. The PSU was chosen because it is a high quality, modular unit with good efficiency. In reality, you could use an i5 for gaming an editing. I chose the locked i7, since I felt like the added expense of overclocking was a diminishing return. This is an example and not to be taken as an accurate comparison, but let's say an i5 takes 3 minutes to render a video. A locked i7 may take 2 minutes, and overclocking the i7 make reduce the render time to a minute 45 seconds.
 

Aeacus

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Since BadActor already explained the differences between HDD, SSD and M.2 SSD alongside with i7-6700 vs i7-6700K, i have nothing more to add regarding this.

If you're going with non-K CPU, you can invest more in the other parts.
Here's one such build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($397.70 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.75 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus B150M-A/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.98 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($96.79 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($391.98 @ NCIX)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($115.49 @ DirectCanada)
Monitor: AOC E2425SWD 24.0" 60Hz Monitor ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Monitor: AOC E2425SWD 24.0" 60Hz Monitor ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1811.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-13 00:52 EDT-0400

Few words.
Switched out SSD with M.2 SSD for much faster read/write speeds. Also put in 2TB HDD for storage. Changed the PSU to fully modular unit. And downgraded Win 10 from Pro to Home to keep the cost down.

Went on and also put together a single monitor build under $1500 CAD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($396.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: Asus B150M-A/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($98.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($54.98 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.98 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.94 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card ($280.27 @ NCIX)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($115.49 @ DirectCanada)
Monitor: Acer G276HL Gbmid 27.0" 60Hz Monitor ($199.98 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1479.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-13 01:14 EDT-0400

Compared to the build above, i had to downgrade a lot of the components to fit in the $1500 range.
CPU cooler: from aftermarket one to stock one.
RAM: from 16GB to 8GB (you have 2 slots free to upgrade back to 16GB).
SSD: from M.2 SSD to 2.5" SSD.
HDD: from 2TB to 1TB.
GPU: from 6GB VRAM to 3GB VRAM.
Monitor: from dual 24" to single 27".

I don't suggest this cheaper build since it doesn't perform as well as the build above but i put it in so you can see what you can get with $1500.
 

lthos1

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Oct 10, 2016
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Okay guys, thank you again for all of the help. With your input I Have put this together:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($434.98 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.75 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($105.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($108.77 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($338.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($123.33 @ DirectCanada)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($22.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($112.98 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1486.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-13 19:29 EDT-0400

Can you let me know if this should be okay - in terms of any incompatibilities. For instance PCPartPicker is flagging the following: "The motherboard M.2 slot #0 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6Gb/s ports are disabled." I got the incompatibility when adding the following HDD: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($96.79 @ Amazon Canada)

Does that mean I should look at a different SSD or a different HDD?

I chose a different case because I need an optical drive. I think I would prefer to go with the 6700k since the price difference is now just $35 and I would probably put in the Cooler Master 212 EVO either way, so really it is just the price difference in motherboard + $35.

Also, would I be safe to switch out the PSU above for SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg Canada) to save $40-50.

Sorry to continue asking questions, just don't want to mess anything up!

Thanks again guys.
 
That's a perfectly fine build. No need to worry about the caution on the M.2 drive since you aren't using one. All it means is that if you were, it would be sharing bandwidth with the SATA ports and two SATA ports would be unusable. There are many options when it comes to storage and it really depends on what you need. If a single 250 GB SATA drive is enough storage for what you do, by all means use it. But if you have a business that relies on transfer and storage of large video and photo files, you may want add to that. You would quickly fill a single 250 GB drive. Also, you may want to consider space for backups to prevent data loss.
 

lthos1

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Oct 10, 2016
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Sorry, I messed up when I linked the build. Actually it was meant to include the following to hard drives:

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($96.79 @ Amazon Canada)

Which then gave me the caution. I would like to use the Samsung 850 EVO 250GB and then have a 1-2TB HDD. Would the following set up work with the caution? I believe the Hitachi is SATA?
 

Aeacus

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With M.2 SSD drive, only the 1st and 2nd SATA port will be disabled (SATA3_0 and SATA3_1). But since you have 6 SATA ports on your MoBo, you can plug your HDD into any of the remaining 4 SATA ports and you're good to go.

As far as PSU goes, your system runs just fine with the 520W Seasonic. It even gives you room for medicore CPU overclocking if you decide to do that.
650W PSU is more for a 2-way SLI/Crossfire build or high CPU overclocking level.
 

lthos1

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Thank you both a great deal. I'm new to this forum so I don't know if it actually matters to either of you who's solution I chose, but I went with the first build since it is closest to what I ultimately decided on. Thanks again for all the feedback and advice. Going to place my order later today!