Help Wanted: Intel/NVidia Build

JDubstep

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Basically I had been out of the computer building business for awhile. The last three rigs I owned were ASUS RoG laptops.They were sexy, portable, decently priced, and did what I needed them to do. After much self-contention, I set out and built myself desktop. More than a year prior, I had built my dad a medium-priced rig ($850) using AMD/Radeon products. He's a story-mode gamer, so he really doesn't need much to satisfy him. He lives out in the boonies and basically has the worst 'high-speed' Internet known to man. I used the PC I built him as a benchmark to see how well AMD/Radeon had climbed over the years (up until then, I've never owned any of their products). I then waited until I received this year's tax return to build myself a faster, more suitable for online gaming box. I did this with an AMD CPU and dual Radeon GPUs. This ran me about $2.5k for everything in the tower. Life was great. Things were good, and then technology happened. All of a sudden, my stuff wasn't good enough for me. The games I now enjoy playing aren't optimized for crossfire. In the near foreseeable future, they won't be either. Radeon released the 480 which runs better than my two R9 390s and costs half of what I paid for two of those bad boys. Two weeks ago, my dad calls me up asking about minimum specs for the new CoD that was dropping. I told him I was considering building a new comp and that he would be entitled to take what I have now as tribute for an early Christmas present. I'm not quite up to par with Intel/NVidia products and I'd like input on what I currently have in my NewEgg shopping cart. Shopping Cart

TL;DR - see attached screen cap, and tell me what you think (good or bad). Feel free to provide suggestions as necessary. I find myself playing a lot of FPS online. CS:GO, H1Z1, CoD franchise.

Thanks,

Jake
 
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* For gaming purposes, 8GB of RAM is enough, 16GB of RAM is more than enough not to see "low system memory" message for any general task you do. Anything above 16GB is waste of money unless you have specific application that can benefit from that additional RAM.
* The brand is less important, though Corsair is among the top RAM vendors. Of course the faster - the better.
* Liquid cooling is never necessary. The just run quieter and provide lower temperature. The 212 evo is not meant to be used with 2011-3 CPUs like you selected. Especially when overclocked. Even for 6700, i'd use something like http://pcpartpicker.com/product/wjmLrH/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhu12s
or even http://pcpartpicker.com/product/46tCmG/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd14
but with...
That will make much more sense for gaming than what you have in chart.
for cooller, use noctua for air or this one for liquid: https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-xlc-predator-240

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII RANGER ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($182.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($81.12 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($644.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1324.03
 
Agree with above. An overclocked quad core i7 is about as good as it gets for gaming. Unless you have a 4k monitor, I would also think about switching to the GTX 1070. If still on a 1080p monitor, the savings on the CPU/mobo and graphics card would easily pay for a better monitor.
 

JDubstep

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Thank you gents for the expedient answers!!! I do have a few follow up questions for you though:

-less RAM as well as a different brand and speed, why if you don't mind?

-No question on the CPU, GPU, and Mobo choices. I comprehend the logic there.

-The liquid cooler looks legit, however at which point in OC the CPU would that actually become necessary? My current CPU is OC'd to 4.19GHz (AMD FX - 8350) and air cooled. I haven't had an issue with it (yet).

-If I went with a capture card to help with streaming/recording game footage, which would you recommend?

-I considered the 1070 GTX, however I'd like to run my HD monitors on higher settings (AA, ATF, PP, etc.) at 1080p with extremely high frame rates. I have three 144Hz/1ms response - 1080 monitors; it would be nice to drive a couple games on all three simultaneously too!
 
* For gaming purposes, 8GB of RAM is enough, 16GB of RAM is more than enough not to see "low system memory" message for any general task you do. Anything above 16GB is waste of money unless you have specific application that can benefit from that additional RAM.
* The brand is less important, though Corsair is among the top RAM vendors. Of course the faster - the better.
* Liquid cooling is never necessary. The just run quieter and provide lower temperature. The 212 evo is not meant to be used with 2011-3 CPUs like you selected. Especially when overclocked. Even for 6700, i'd use something like http://pcpartpicker.com/product/wjmLrH/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhu12s
or even http://pcpartpicker.com/product/46tCmG/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd14
but with those, you need to be careful with RAM clearance (the corsair LPX is very low profile RAM which helps with that).
On the other hand, liquid cooling does not have such issues - a small block on the CPU instead of 1.2KG of metal with good air coolers. I'm personally not comfortable with large air coolers in my computer and smaller do not perform good/quite enough. That's why I use liquid cooling for almost 10 years.
* GTX 1070 will not be able to power more than one 1080p@144Hz monitors. I mean they will work, but your frame rate is not going to be even close to 100FPS with 3 monitors. I have GTX 1070 and kinda 1080p monitor. It's 100-160FPS in most games. Some games are running at lower FPS. The Witcher 3 is about 80FPS.
So in order to play simultaneously on 3 1080p@144Hz monitors and utilize those 144Hz, you are going to need at least 2 GTX 1070, or better 2 x GTX 1080.
 
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JDubstep

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Max budget? Ehh, I don't know. I'd venture to say that it's reasonably open. Lol. Why, what kind of build did you have in mind?

 

JDubstep

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At that point, would it be better to just spring for a Titan X? Or do you think that SLI 1080s trump that?
 


In most cases 2x1080 (even 2x1070) are way faster/more powerful and cheaper than Titan :)
 

g-unit1111

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That depends on what kind of monitor resolution we're talking about. A single 1080 will get pretty solid framerates on 4K, and it will handle just about anything you can throw at it on 1440P and 1080P. A Titan X I think would be mega overkill on 1440P and 1080P. But for 4K and depending on your budget I wouldn't rule it out.
 

JDubstep

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Well, if that's the case I'm back at square one with SLI/Crossfire GPUs. H1Z1 has yet to implement support for either one of these. I feel however, that running the game on one monitor would be more ideal with a single 1080 than a single R9 390. The issue I'd be facing with a single Titan versus 2+ 1080s would be holding out hope that the developers put multiGPU support into the game. :eek: (that's me holding my breath). In either case I think I'll push for one 1080, play the game on one screen, and hope they come out with support for multiGPUs.
 

JDubstep

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I somehow missed your post. For the time being, I'll be playing on one to three 1080p monitors. Once a 4K monitor with a high refresh and decent response time magically appears, I'll consider making upgrades. I do own a 4K TV, but I've already been down that road with using a TV as a monitor. Thanks a lot for clarifying those GPU capabilities for me, GU1111.
 


Smart choice :)
and then Volta will be able to do the game with single GPU.
I usually have a monitor that single GPU can handle as my experience with SLI was far from perfect.

 

JDubstep

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Initial setup was as follows:

-G. Skill Ripjaws Series X 4x8GB DDR3 1866
-Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
-AMD FX 8350 (Vishera)
-Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z
-MSI Radeon R9 390 Gaming 8G x2

Current grand total of components llisted without shipping: $1672.92

My final purchase consisted of the following items based on input as well as improvisation, and research:

-G. Skill TridentZ Series 2x8GB DDR4 3600
-Corsair Hyrdo Series H60
-Intel Core i7 6700K (Skylake)
-ASUS RoG Maximus VIII Hero/Whetstone
-EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 SC Gaming ACX 3.0

Upgrage total with shipping: $1337.29 (not even lying; if it's 1337 it must be sweet!)


 

g-unit1111

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Yeah a 1080 will handle those no problem.

My final purchase consisted of the following items based on input as well as improvisation, and research:

-G. Skill TridentZ Series 2x8GB DDR4 3600
-Corsair Hyrdo Series H60
-Intel Core i7 6700K (Skylake)
-ASUS RoG Maximus VIII Hero/Whetstone
-EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 SC Gaming ACX 3.0

Good choices but I personally would not have bought an H60, I would much prefer a strong air cooler like the Noctua D15, Cryorig R1, or Phanteks TC-14, but that is me.
 

JDubstep

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I hear you. I figured I would try out liquid cooling and start small. I pretty much figure it's one of the easiest things to return to a vendor if I'm not satisfied. I based the choice off of average rating and how many people cited coolant leakage. Not to mention the fact it appears to be the best fitting for my case (Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced).
 
Ditch that H60 - It's total crap.
If you want a good liquid experience, get this one https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-xlc-predator-240
That will perform better and quieter than any Air cooler and CLC AiO from asetek (Corsair/NZXT/Arctic/TT ond others branded). It is completelly repairable/upgradeable with way longer lifespan.
You can even expand it to GPU later.
It will fit the your case without problem (mount the rad on top).
You can also use AiO liquid cooling from Swiftech and Alphacool (Fractal Design Kelvin and Be Quite are using Alphacool to make their coolers).
If those options are too expensive or you just don't want to pay that much for cooling, get decent Noctua/Be Quite/Cryorg cooler. Don't try to go cheap on liquid.
The crap kits from astek are loud and have short lifespan. Once you start losing liquid (and it happens with any loop over time) you can't refill them. once the pump is gone - you can't replace it. And it's small crappy pump working at very high RPM which is both not really quite and not good for reliability. So while they look attractive at the first glance, they are the last thing to buy.
 

JDubstep

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I actually laughed a bit at your post. Not because it was funny, but because I ordered your suggested cooler maybe an hour after I ordered the H60. I'll forward the Corsair to my pops and install it later, along with the older components he's getting from my old build.

Conspicuous consumption follow-up question:

Still haven't found the options in my settings that allow me to add my computer hardware to my profile. I can see where it should be, however I can't click or type on anything. Any solutions?
 

JDubstep

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It just magically unlocked itself. Good stuff! Now if you don't mind, please educate me because I'm a noob. Is this like Reddit where I can upvote people that participated and gave me legitimate advice? Only thing I see is that I can report people for bad answers. :D
 
well, you need to post it as "question" to have an option to select "best answer" to mark an answer as solution and thread as solved and.
then you also have the option to upvote/downvote each answer/post in the thread.
check here, all with question mark are questions, with quotes mark - something else.