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What's the best option to do, buy a GTX 1080 and use with my i7 3770k, or i buy a GTX 1070 and also upgrade my CPU to a i7 6700k, what would be the best choice here? Because i know the 3770k will limit the GPU some which i don't really like, but i also don't know what the GTX 1070 option would give me, could anyone help me with this as i'm struggling with this :D

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Hey Snubil. Good question. It highly depends on which games you will be playing. As you know, some titles are more CPU intensive than others, meaining that your fps will be limited to what the CPU can provide. Having said that, its worth taking note of where the fps max out, given that the CU is the bottleneck. I mean to say that if you have a 60Hz monitor and the game maxes out at say 65 fps, because of CPU limitation, then who cares, right? Here are some results from a very interesting benchmark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhuC8Tf9i3I


If I were in your shoes: In anticipation of DX12 titles in 2017, you might want to keep the z97 platform for now and get that 1080. Then after Christmas, prices for z170 platform will fall. Then you can get some bargains on motherboard ram and cpu.
 
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Thanks for your answer!

I want to aim for getting over 100 fps in games since i have a 144hz monitor, i'm not really going for the 4K, 1440p or anything like that so what would be the best option for that do you think? Also i'm actually doing this upgrade mainly because of Battlefield 1 and idk if that's a CPU intenstive game, maybe it's both.

 
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Keep your 3770k is that cpu still performs very well, also go for the gtx1070.
It won't bottle neck the cpu, the problem will fall back on which game it is and what settings and setup you got.
You could oc the cpu to 4.2ghz if your heatsink/fan or watercooling can handle it.
Save up about 400 bucks total till next feburary-march then upgrade the cpu to 6700k, mobo and new ddr4.
You could sell your current cpu/mobo/ram on amazon.com to make up for the new build cost.
 
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Okay i'll keep this in mind but i got 1 question, do i really need to upgrade my motherboard? I have a ASUS P8Z77-V PRO motherboard atm.
 
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You only have to sell the motherboard if you are planning to upgrade to a skylake CPU.
 
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Oh damn, i can't use this motherboard i have right now with a i7 6700k? :/
 
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No single GPU currently out there can play BF1 at 144 fps on ultra at 4k or 1440p, so you're right on the money there. In the benchmarks, I rarely even see a GTX 1080 hit 100 fps on 1440p. However, I have seen the 3770k and a GTX 980ti (980ti = GTX 1070 performance) hit close to 100 fps at 1080p here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJcGRYZKbBg

This dude did some benchmarks with a GTX 1080 and a 3770k and found that the CPU was not reaching maximum load at any time in battlefield 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5ExV0RaI0M

So evidence suggests that your 3770K should still do the job in battlfefield 1, given you upgrade to a GTX 1080.
 
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No, unfortunately the i7 3770k is socket 1155, meaning that there are 1155 pins at the socket-cpu interface. The i7 6700k is socket 1151, meanining that it has 1151 pins at the socket-cpu interface. That's only taking into account the physical dimension differences. In addition, the i7 3770k runs on your z77-generation chipsets, whereas the i7 6700k will run only on z170-generation chipsets so far. You would have to upgrade to a Skylake compatible board if you want to run Skylake CPUs.
 
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If you want to use the 6700k yes you do, also ddr4 would benefit it instead of the current ddr3 right now.
This is why I said save up the money over time, buy your new gtx card and the 3770k will hold you over till then.
 
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Don't forget that if you have a registered version of Windows 10, it is tied to your mobo ID and the microsoft mobo upgrade tools works only when it feels like it if you replace the mobo and doesn't work at all if you replace mobo + major hardware piece because it considers your hardware print "void".

Registering another windows 10 copy because of a mobo change adds to the cost of the upgrade.
 
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This is not entirely true. Here are the facts:

Full version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer.
- Doesn't require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive

Upgrade version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer.
- require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive, but cheaper than full version

OEM :
OEM versions of Windows are identical to Full License Retail versions except for the following:
- OEM versions do not offer any free Microsoft direct support from Microsoft support personnel
- OEM licenses are tied to the very first computer you install and activate it on
- OEM versions allow all hardware upgrades except for an upgrade to a different model motherboard
- OEM versions cannot be used to directly upgrade from an older Windows operating system

Ref: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10/will-upgrading-motherboard-after-upgrading-to/a26e93c4-6886-4b44-99cf-7bf49ccba6ee
 
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See what I highlighted unless the laptop or desktop motherboard dies that the product key is tied.
However -Microsoft Technical support- "not the automated system" will transfer it once to a identical motherboard or similiar laptop.
Make sure to have your facts right and you'll be able to do it over the phone once or get your product key blacklisted upon false info.

I've done this from time to time for people who are really in a bind.
 
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