GTX 1070 or 980Ti?

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hello guys

looking to buy a new GPU, there is a used GIGABYTE GTX 980Ti G1 Gaming..

or i can get the EVGA GTX 1070 SC..

the 980TI for $380
the GTX 1070 for $410

which one should i get? and what is the difference in the performance anyway?

i have Intel Xeon E5-2650 V1, 8GB x 2 CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM and HUNTKEY X7 900w PSU
 
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There is a fairly small difference between them. The 1070 typically comes out a bit faster though. Not by much however.

Personally with only $30 between them I would go for the 1070. You have newer architecture, more VRAM (if that matters) and it's slightly faster.

I don't know but your CPU may cause a bottleneck in some games with a high end card. I don't have experience with that chip but the intel site says it is old and slow. That is something to look into before buying either.
 
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In my opinion you should go for the GTX 1070. The GTX 1070 has a much higher clock speed and this means it will run faster too. If you have the money, go for it.
 
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Right now, there is little difference in performance in current titles. However, the GTX 1070 will exceed the 980ti in 2017's DX12 titles. We don't know by how far yet. Having said that, the 980ti is a great graphics card. I'd say if you are able to get the 980ti at $300 or lower, then go that route. Otherwise, stick to the GTX 1070. There are GTX 1070's for as low as $360 if you look in the right places.

Final footnote. You are going to run into CPU fps limitation soon, if not already, with that old 2012 Xeon platform. You might want to look at some more modern options.
 
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Higher clocks doesn't necessarily mean it is faster. Especially when comparing differing architectures of graphics cards.
 
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http://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#sort=a8&c=369

The 1070 uses 100 watts less power.
 
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Yeah, higher clocks don't mean higher speeds. The number of CUDA cores count as well.

The 980Ti has 2816 CUDA cores and a lower clockspeed

The 1070 has 1920 CUDA cores and a higher clockspeed.

They both turn about the same performance.
 
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the 1070 definitely has its advantages over the 980ti, most of all being power draw and in the long run more driver optimizations. out the box the 1070 is a bit better but max overclock its a tie with the 980ti being better in some games and the 1070 being better in others. vram isn't an excuse as even 3.5gb 970sli haven't yet revealed a vram bottleneck, 6gb is absurdly high, 8gb even more. there really isn't much reason to get the 980ti unless you are getting a smokin deal.

you should be able to find 1070s on deal for right about $390.

to compare, here is my gigabyte g1 980ti at 1.5ghz stable and for firestrike graphic scores it is roughly equal to a stock 1080 founders edition score.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15347171

https://jet.com/product/GEFORCE-GTX1070-SC-PCIE-30-8GB/6a59c1f0bb064313a12ce1909258294c?jcmp=afl:link:lw9MynSeamY:414378:1:10&siteID=lw9MynSeamY-VPDHikEAYtWMKN7UI2pDUg
from jet.com... use the 10% code on the page to reduce the $405 price of the evga sc 1070 to roughly $370.
 
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No, do a platform upgrade. Not worth the money you spend on the 1070 to run it on 2012 platform. Your PC is like a time machine LOL
 
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lool, its because i got this build cheap.. like is it really bad? that cannot run a GTX 1070? what will happen exactly?

 
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E5-2650 is a beast of a cpu but its not designed for gaming at all. it will demolish a 6700k in server use or extreme cpu intesive applications but even a skylake i3 would beat it in gaming benchmarks. the e5 has a purpose and gaming is not it. games vastly favor 2 cores moving as fast as they can and at 2.8ghz turbo those sandy bridge cores will reveal a bottleneck.
 
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you cant just us the number of cuda cores as an indication of anything between different architectures

the 1070 has less, but they are more efficient


you need to look at benchmarks
 
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It looks like it could be about the same if this is accurate: PassMark - CPU Performance Comparison.

Seems the high core count gives it a huge advantage but the single threaded performance is much greater in the 6700k (1322 vs 2334 - about twice as fast per core).

If you were to upgrade, a 6700k would be a good choice. Enough that it would be noticeably faster than what you are using now.

Bottlenecking would likely show up as the CPU experiencing heavy load on only a few cores while playing a game. Unstable FPS, unexpectedly low FPS in general.
 
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yeah, between an i3 4130 ~ i3 6100 for gaming I would imagine

>.> pretty bad bottleneck for something like a 1070 or 980 ti
 
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Your statement is completely wrong! I consistently use 8 gigs of vram in cod black ops 3 at 1440p and gta v at 4k. I am not sure how you think 4k wont go over 4 gigs vram? maybe you play on lowest setting but for me thats not good enough. So i guess you should probably do some research before you say my statement is flawed when i know beyond a shadow of a doubt that i am correct.
 
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if your going to compare a basically maxed out oc on a 980 ti to a stock 1080 and say there the same i feel compelled to tell you what i got on a single gtx 1080 not at max oc but at 2.1 Ghz (mine runs at 1.9 stock) my score on the same firestrike
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9711226
 
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1500 isn't max, all 980tis go to 1500, even reference ones, though they go over 80c fast. mine levels out at about 71c. but 1500mhz is the average max most people use just like 2.1ghz is the average max most are using for the 1070/1080. as you can see in the benchmark above, his 1070@2114mhz 20789pts gives the same firestrike score as my 980ti at 1500mhz 20807pts. your 1080 is 13% faster than us. i was giving the op an example of what the cards are capable of and founder edition 1080 benchmarks are a good example of an overclocked 1070/980ti.
 
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