Overclocking AMD CPU FX - 8320

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So I recently got an aftermarket cooler for my FX - 8320 and managed to get it to a stable 4.2Ghz Overclock and I am pretty sure i can push it a little further than that. What i am afraid of is wattage since i have an 970A-U3P mobo from gigabyte. Can anyone tell me how much further can i overclock my cpu ?
 
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With the right cooling - such as liquid nitrogen, you could go 7ghz. However, I'm thinking that you'll want to stay a little more sane than that. :)

You should be able to get a bit higher than that, but there are several things you haven't mentioned.

1) what are your voltages and your temps?
2) what kind of cooler do you have?

That will help develop a plan, but there are many things which determine how far ANY CPU can overclock, and different CPU/mobo/heatsink combos will have very different overclock limits. Even with the same mobo and heatsink, your 8320 may hit 4.2 and no higher, while the guy next door will hit 4.7ghz. Hence the term: silicon lottery. Some CPUs just do better - even from the same production batch.

So - in...

Ethanh100

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The vrm on that board has decent cooling, and shouldn't be a concern for average overclocking like this. Use HWMonitor to see the temp probes on your motherboard, and look up what the probes correlate to, and as long as the vrm is staying under around 70-80c, it wont be a problem. Did you leave the voltage at stock? if you don't plan on touching the voltage, with wont be a concern at all. Otherwise, just keep those temps in check, and stay under 1.5v.
 
The 8320 can go to 5.0 GHz or more with the proper cooling. Your motherboard will be fine to go higher with an over clock and not need to worry about anything. Your board has 8+2 voltage phases which will make it a good overclocking board. You have good VRM cooling so as long as you keep the inside of the case cool you will not have an issue with this.

As to the temp sensors, AMD uses a mathematical algorithm to "guess" at the temperature instead of using an actual sensor in the chip. Because of this The best way to tell if they are overheating or close to overheating is to use AMD Overdrive. The thermal margin under the CPU tab will tell you how many more degree's you have to go before the CPU overheats and starts to throttle. This temp reads backwards from normal temp readings in the following way: When it says 30°C you have 30 more degree's to go before you overheat and throttle. When it reads 0°C your CPU will start to throttle. This is invaluable as a tool for overclocking AMD CPU's right now.

Depending on what Cooler you purchased will depict what you will be able to get for an overclock.
 

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With the right cooling - such as liquid nitrogen, you could go 7ghz. However, I'm thinking that you'll want to stay a little more sane than that. :)

You should be able to get a bit higher than that, but there are several things you haven't mentioned.

1) what are your voltages and your temps?
2) what kind of cooler do you have?

That will help develop a plan, but there are many things which determine how far ANY CPU can overclock, and different CPU/mobo/heatsink combos will have very different overclock limits. Even with the same mobo and heatsink, your 8320 may hit 4.2 and no higher, while the guy next door will hit 4.7ghz. Hence the term: silicon lottery. Some CPUs just do better - even from the same production batch.

So - in any event, once you hit a certain point in overclocking, there are methods towards hitting the maximum OC on any particular chip. In general, your load temp limit should be about 75C for a nice safe and stable OC. Your voltage max is about 1.50v - higher than that will damage the chip. The general procedure for overclocking is:

1) bump multiplier.
2) stress test.
3) if below 75c and 1.50v and passes stress test, go to step 1. If fails, go to step 4.
4) if at 75c OR 1.49v, go to step 7.
5) increase voltage by .01v
6) got to step 2.
7) you're done. Downclock multiplier by 1 - recheck via stress that it's stable - this is your max stable speed.

The way this works if you look at it is you're creeping up on max speed by increasing the multiplier which is determined by a function of both voltage AND temp. If the stress testing fails - you can add a bit more voltage until it passes the stress test - up to a limit of 1.5v or 75c load temp. If you're at either of those limits, you're done and shouldn't add any more voltage or push the chip any further.

Some notes. Cooling is uber-important. If you have a stock cooler (unless its one of the newer Wraith coolers), you're not going to get very far. Usually a bigger heatsink is needed if you're going to overclock, or a good water cooler (or liquid nitrogen... lol). Don't forget to account for cooling the VRMs - having good airflow in the case will be very important as well. Lastly, remember that not every chip will easily hit 4.7ghz (or 4.5, or even 4.3ghz) stable. Chip tolerances vary WILDLY, and these chips already go through a round of testing to find the better and best ones. That's what a FX-9590 is made from. If your chip was capable of 4.5ghz at low temps and voltages, AMD would have already picked it out and repackaged it as a premium chip. That's why the do binning in the first place.

Good luck with the OC!

**** Edit ****

Pointed out by someone below that tMax for AMD is about 10c lower than Intel. While this might be true, the point is that with the 28-32nm process that these are on they can take a fair bit of abuse, you may never be able to hit 70C stable, but according the flowchart above you'd hit vMax and have to stop anyhow and that IS a hard limit that can damage the chip.

I also need to add that at the end of the chart step 7 you'd theoretically at a multiplier which is unstable as you failed the stress test and are either at tMax or vMax. You need to then downclock the multiplier by one notch, retest and verify you're stable.
 
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AMD FX series CPU's usually start having issues around 62°C. By this I mean they start to throttle. This temp even held true for the Phenom II series CPU's also. Intel CPU's are 70+. While I agree with the rest of what you said your temps are off for AMD FX CPU's. ;)

My particular FX chip doesn't like going close to the thermal margin before throwing errors. I need to stay 12°C from the thermal limit or cores throw errors and/or the crashes the system.
 



if your lucky it will I cant even get my 9370 stable to 5ghz, it will boot etc but fails on 2 cores
 


Silicon lottery for ya right there. Have you tried with only 1 stick of ram and lowering the CPU-NB frequency to 2200 MHz and HT to 2000 MHz? If you haven't yet also try setting your voltage setting to manual and not off-set. This will lock your CPU voltage at one setting and add stability due to the voltage not fluctuating. By doing so you may also find that you wont need as high of a voltage to maintain stability.

These should be stock speeds for the 83xx and 9xxx series CPU's. You can raise them but it can also effect the max OC of the CPU core speed. Raising them also can give a good boost in performance to where the extra core speed wont make up for it. This is where actual benchmarks are used.

This goes for the OP also.

EDIT: I noticed that you didn't have your PSU listed, Don't underestimate the value in a low noise and low ripple quality PSU when overclocking.
 

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Yup, my bad, should have double checked that but being on a typical 28nm process, it could throw errors at 70c temps, but it won't DAMAGE anything. Worst case - if it starts going unstable at mid-60C, according to the flowchart, he'd never be able to get enough voltage as he'd hit the vMax and have to end it anyhow. And, you never know, silicon lottery might give him a golden chip which can handle 70c temps...

One thing I should have noted though is that if he can't get stable at vMax and tMax, he has to turn down the multiplier a notch.