In search of CPU recomendations

berlin88

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I currently have an AMD FX-8320 that I purchased back in November 2013, and I am looking at the possibility of upgrading to a newer CPU. My current motherboard is an AsRock 990FX Extreme 4.

What CPU do people recommend these days? Are the newer CPU's much of an improvement over my FX-8320? Should I wait to see what CPU's are released in 2017?

I have previously used AMD CPU's, but I am open to giving Intel a try, if they are the best. My system is primarily for gaming / classical music listening. I don't have a budget yet, but perhaps in the $200-250 range for the CPU and an undecided amount for the motherboard.

My current video card is a EVGA 960, which I purchased earlier this year, so I don't plan on upgrading that anytime soon.

If recommending an Intel CPU, please also suggest a motherboard, since I am not familiar with Intel motherboards.

Thanks for the help
 

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If you want to upgrade your system with AMD brand, I suggest you waiting for upcoming 7th gen AMD cpu.
but if you want to upgrade with Intel brand, I suggest Intel i5 6600k Skylake, and z170 borad. or maybe Kabylake perhaps in the future.
 

berlin88

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If I got something like the i5-6600k, would there be a noticeable improvement over my FX-8320? While I am interested in upgrading, I don't want to shell out a lot of money, if its only a minor increase in performance.

The new CPU would need to last me 2-3 years, given the costs involved in upgrading.

 

bwen1

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According to userbenchmarks, the i5 6600k has a 64% increase in effective speed over the FX 8320. A large improvement in quad core and single core speed and a slightly better performance using all cores. It will definitely last 2-3 years but if the upgrade is worth it is up to you. Is there things that you would like to do right now that is restricted by your CPU?
 

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my answer will be exactly as mentioned above by bwen1 :D
 

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I love how one recommends expensive upgrades without asking what he does with the computer and if he feels his computer is underperforming.


So, may I ask what you do with you computer, I.e game/special apps? Also do you feel let down in ant particular app?

You CPU is pretty decent one. For gaming you are better off with new GPU. For better system response get SSD. For single thread app. Get i5.
 

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Incorrect. For many open world games, they are going to be more CPU intensive. The person asked for a CPU recommendation. Compared to the Fx 8320, the I5 6600k is a good processor and his video vard will run fine with it. Mobo that fits well with a reg 6600 is any LGA 1151 by the way since I didnt notice that part.
 

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I just spent last 3hr playing mafia 3 at 35+ fps and battlefield 1 at 60+ fps on fx 6300, on 16 GB 1600, RX 480. CPU load at 70 pc or less GPU load at 100.

Find me a better CPU for RX 480. Or a newer more open world game please. Star craft at 80 fps.

All at 1080 p at ultra max settings

Last I checked RX 480 is better than 960
 

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Well here is an idea, look up gameplay of the same game with a different processor but the same graphics card smart one.
 

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Grand Theft Auto V, Arma 2, Arma 3, Dayz, Assasians Creed, Dying Light, The Forest. All these games are real examples because when I upgraded from my FX 6300 without switching out the graphics card, (950) my fps got an increase from 30-40 avg to 70-80 avg. (Not in arma 3, it moved up to 40-50)
 

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You do know that a 950 is not capable of delivering 70+ fps at high enough settings at any of those title.

I get 90+ in GTA v max setting. And if u get 70 with a 950 suing amd. :p

Gave not played others so cannot comment
 

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I do know that it is capable because I get it. I dont understand why you are having a hard time understanding that. Here is footage of the forest at 60 fps max settings on a worse processor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_VtN0FTvA8
 

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If you lower settings anything will work and also expose bottle neck from somewhere else. Like the video

Did u compare CPU and GPU usage in both systems? And ensured identical settings.

If a fx 6300 does not bottleneck RX 480 it cannot by definition bottleneck 950 as what is weaker. That is why i am having troible

Again only speaking for GTA v as I have not played others. But it is also an indication something else was not right in that system which may have held back the performance.
 

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Well the settings in the video werent lowered though, as the video says, it is on ultra. Here is GTA Max settings at least 60 FPS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSllg1Nfp0M
 

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Right I think that we are arguing to different points here, I was arguing that his processor is fine because it is better then my 950 which gets perfectly good fps with the suggested processor (I5 6600k). Is that still what you are arguing?
 

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You could try using an aftermarket cpu cooler if you're not using one already and give the 8320 an overclock. Amd's new zen cpu's won't be out for another few months, I believe they're aiming for first quarter of 2017. Listening to music shouldn't be all that taxing so not a huge increase in performance there most likely. Amd's cpu's do fall behind in gaming somewhat due to lower ipc performance which is one of the things zen cpu's aim to improve on.

It depends on the game, some games will run similarly on amd or intel especially with a mid range gaming card like the 960. If the gpu is maxed out then there won't be much noticeable difference. If the game is more cpu intensive an intel cpu would provide increased performance. Hard to say by how much, 5, 10, 15fps.

If looking to make an upgrade I think it would be worth either considering intel or waiting for zen. The fx 8350 and 8370 etc are essentially just faster clocked versions of the 8320, something you can gain by overclocking and your motherboard is a decent amd board for overclocking. If you plan to go with intel's latest skylake or consider amd's zen when it comes out you'll be looking at a new cpu, motherboard and ddr4 ram so either way it will mean a somewhat significant upgrade along with a reinstall of windows.
 

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After I think about it..., I suggest you saving more money just in case AMD's Zen come out..., there's still plenty of time for waiting the development.
because like synphul said... U need significant upgrade for your system which is take a lot off money from you.
 

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Thanks for all the responses!

My system is for gaming, with some dvd watching and classical music listening.

I likely will wait until Black Friday to see what the special deals are this year, but I am leaning towards the i5-6600k. I could wait until 2017 to see what AMD does with the Zen processor, but the i5-6600k is very tempting.

I just got my 960 GPU in July, so I am in no hurry to upgrade the video card.

I already have a Samsung EVO 850 250GB SSD, so I am good in that department.

My current FX-8320 / Asrock 990FX Extreme 4 has worked ok for me, although I haven't purchased any new games lately, so I can't say how well it will handle Battlefield 1, Civilization VI or other newer games.
 

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Hi Berlin88,
Having read your posts Ann's the above comments I've read into it that you play CPU intensive games i.e.: civ 6
My ongoing thought through the whole post is have you ran cleaning and maintenance tools through your system,
My PC is mostly for gaming as is my sons, they were both built at the same time to the same spec yet mine a year or so later boots up twice as fast and gets better response times.
The fact is I regularly clean mine and also stop things like Skype and iTunes auto booting on start up, I'm not saying you don't do these things just offering a thought There.
I've seen people bring me pcs they replaced due to being old and slow after 24 hours they work almost as fast as when they bought it...
personally given the options I'd wait for zen by amd
 

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I've found doing the following once a week improves your rig better than upgrading every six months ever will. Run your AV and anti-malware programs each week. Run CCleaner (both the clean up utility and the Registry cleaner) every other week. Do a full close down/shut down of your system once a week (or after ANY major Windows update) and leave off for 15 minutes. Restart your system and check out your Task manager to make sure unneeded programs are not auto-running or restarting (especially if you have Windows 10, after an update, you will want to go into your running programs and Services tabs and make sure Windows did not turn something back on that you had off).

Once or twice a month, make sure all your game data (whether just a game installed on your rig via CD/DVD or thru an app like Steam, Origin, UPlay, Arc, or whomever) is backed up and delete old restore points (you only ever need the last two to make sure you maintain a good system health). On self installed games (not the digital download types, but ones you installed yourself) always make an extra folder and call it Saves-Old and copy your latest save files from each game into there, in case of a corrupt file showing up, you will have an old save to go back to.

Sometimes, you can save a LOT of money, by simply doing basic cleaning of your rig, as well, including removing the cooler, cleaning both the plate and CPU of all old Thermal Interface Material (be it paste, self-adhesive (which comes on a lot of coolers now-a-days) or thins (special glue)) and put on new TIM to refresh your systems cooling. This applies to air coolers, AIO water coolers and even closed loop custom coolers. At least once a year, clean off the old stuff and put new stuff on. Gelid makes a decent TIM, along with Arctic Silver and a couple of others. Use general paste on Air Coolers, and the ceramic blend TIM on water coolers. Your 8320 should be just fine, and depending on the Motherboard, you can even boost that with a slight overclock to get better performance out of it (especially if on an AIO cooler or closed loop system). You could always spend less than $150 on a better motherboard at some time in the future and save up to get Zen once it's out and proven. :D