Should I overclock this AMD A8?

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Hey guys,
I posted about this computer once before when I was deciding whether to keep it or scrap it. I kept it and I have upgraded it since my last post.
I'm kinda bored so I was looking into tinkering with it some more.
I have an HP Pavilion P7-1421 desktop, I got it for free and was able to repair it so I customized it and made it into a nice computer for a few hundred bucks.
It's a stockboard, AMD Trinity A8 5500 and 16gb ddr3 1866mhz ram, gtx 750ti that's got 2gb gddr5 and a 4tb segate HDD.

I was wondering about whether overclocking this CPU would be worth it? It's a 3.2ghz with turbo to 3.7 already. On a regular load for me which is doing YouTube videos and some emulator gaming, the cpu temp according to DRP13 is usually between 67-71c.
So if I did overclock it I would need a better way to cool it probably.
Can I just buy any cooling system on Amazon and know it will go on my board? I was thinking about just going all out and getting a water cooling system. I'm not worried about the size of the cooler I can retrofit it if need be. I'm good at that kind of stuff and I usually leave the side off my computer anyway because I also do repair work on other machines and I'm constantly plugging hard drives in to test them with my computer and sometimes I swap ram to do tests on particular sticks.
I just don't see how I would know that the cooler would fit my CPU. I don't know how it attaches to the board. Is it just like a heatsink?
Are they universal?

I know I can't take any heatsink off a random computer and slap it on. Sometimes the screws don't fit or are in different places. They don't always seat properly either. Atleast with my experience. I couldn't take a heatsink off say a dell core 2 duo and put it in my computer and make it fit without drilling holes through my motherboard.. Which probably wouldn't work out very well.


Just curious if it would be worth it? Would I be able to see performance increase?
Again I'm just looking into this because I am bored. I'd like to learn more about overclocking, what better way to learn than to tinker?
If overclocking this CPU doesn't make sense maybe the ram or the graphics card?
My bios doesn't support overclocking but I know there is software that will let me do it.
I was going to look for an alternative bios for my board. But before I get into all that someone let me know whether this particular project would make any sense. Am I just wasting my time and money if I do it?
I mean I want to learn but at the same time I don't wanna put the work in on this computer if it's pointless.

 
Hey,

1) The BIOS must support overclocking or software will not work. The software layer is just a different way to tell the BIOS to change its settings.

2) If you could overclock, then the maximum gain would be the proportion you overclock. If you got 10% overclock then your FPS might go from 50FPS to 55FPS in a best case though is likely a bit lower.

You MAY be able to manually change the CPU multipliers though. I doubt it, but if you could then you could force them to something like "40" (x100MHz) for when all four cores are utilized which would mean 4GHz. That would run too hot right now anyway. You probably get about 3.4 or 3.5GHz under full load currently (Turbo drops as more cores are used).

3) Cooler?
Even a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO should do okay. I'd probably use a Cryorig H7 which is about $40USD. And use the motherboard fan software to setup a profile.

Water cooling would probably be a waste of money. Again, since you apparently can't overclock. Even if you could somehow, since the BIOS has no OC options it suggests the hardware isn't suitable to maintain a stable power delivery to the CPU.

*A Cryorig H7 cooler is a good idea to replace stock if you can notice the CPU fan. If it's stock which it almost certainly is, then your fan noise will definitely be lower with this cooler.

(I'm not sure where to get fan software for an HP product, though the BIOS settings may be good enough. Ask if confused later as there may be some solution like SPEEDFAN but I find that product a hassle.)

Compatibility requires:
a) motherboard socket supported (i.e. FM2)
b) case supported (they list CPU height but most are good to about 155mm or so)
c) no memory (DDR3) conflict

The H7 should be fully compatible. Check Newegg/Amazon etc for cheapest price.
 
I should add that your GPU isn't the best either, so many games are probably GPU bottlenecked anyway. It depends on the game.

So other than a slight CPU overclock (if possible), CPU cooler (mainly about noise) that leaves really the GPU.

A sufficient upgrade would be a GTX1060 but even a 3GB model is at least $200USD so it may be hard to justify.

*Your system is actually fairly good for certain games. If you avoid the demanding ones, and tweak settings where appropriate you can have a great experience.
 

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Thanks for the reply. Since I posted this thread I've been searching for an alternative bios but to no avail.
There was one link but the page was not available.
I have this board: MSI MS-7778
If that helps anyone help me. But it's not looking like it's possible to overclock with this board.
I read software such as clockgen and setfbs or something similar to that name could overclock locked boards. Not with as much fine tuning though which is kind of what I want to play with anyway.
I did see online earlier today though the 1060 you're talking about in a 6gb model for 309 on Amazon right now. Or atleast I think that's the one you're referring to.
Says asus gtx 1060 6gb rog strix oc edition.
I do like my computer, it does everything I want it to. It's too bad there isn't a simple way to unlock the settings by going to the manufacturer and asking for an unlocked version of the bios that would void the warranty I never had anyway. Lol
 

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Hey bud, ive only ever worked on computers before. Never really built any from scratch. Of course i mean i might as well have when doing board replacements. But check this board out, do you think this would be a good board to mess with? I found one on ebay for like 45 dollars. Supposedly works. It says i can OC the ram so im assuming i will have OC settings for everything in the bios but you tell me if thats right.
Link to board:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8589311&CatId=7703