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I made a post on oct13 but that seems to be gone for some reason. On that post I explained how my computer kept crashing while on a normal boot. After several reformats and clean installs I later fixed it by reverting to an older software for my video card. It was working swell for a week and then started crashing again even in safe mode now. Another reformat in and even a brand new hard drive no peripherals of the like and now crashes as soon as windows installer opens. I have windows 7&10 and both crash before the setup even starts. The bios runs fine and cpu hovers around 46 degrees c. Anyone know if the MB might be fried or something? I'm ready to take this into geek-squad although I've never purchased their service if anyone can recommend me if they're good or not would appreciate it as well as any suggestions that could fix my pc.

Cpu: a10 7700k 10compute cores (4cpu+6gpu)
Mb: a88x-g41 pc mate
Ram: 2x 8g Kingston fury gddr3
Psu: evga 650 gq 80+ gold power supply
Also I have a liqmax II 120s liquid cpu cooler.
My graphics card that's not hooked up is a sapphire r9 270x 2g gddr5. I hear r9 200 and 300 series arnt to swell because of the software they use just like reverting to an old download seemed to fix my issue for a week if anyone has thoughts on that.

I appreciate all of your time fellow enthusiasts.
 
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Since you changed your hard drive the only thing remaining is your RAM. Download memtest86+ & test your RAM with it. It's the most likely suspect for your issues. If your RAM is fine then you should turn your attention to your motherboard. I'd also suggest updating the motherboard BIOS, but since you are having so many issues, it's dangerous and you risk bricking your motherboard.
 
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Only one night and two responses already what a great community this site is :D.

I took out all drive and it loaded up efi shell. I typed exit to quit whatever that was then brought me to bios. Whenever you exit bios it requires a restart of the comp.

Unfortunately I don't have another computer that can support my ram my father only uses laptops and my brother is an Xbox fan who's pc is very old and supports ddr3 but only up to 1333mhz the kingstons are 1866. Is the memory test from the advanced boot menu involved with the memory of the ram or something else? I updated my bios to its most recent software during my oct 13 post to see if that was the problem back then.
I should also note most of my stuff is about a year and a half years old except for the cpu and liquid cooler is even newer.
Also what does bricking the motherboard mean? do i get to throw a brick at it?
Haha thanks again fellas hope yall get a weekend.
 
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Please unplug the system, press and hold the power button for three seconds to drain all remaining power, remove the side panel and remove the CMOS battery from the motherboard. This type of battery may resemble a watch battery. You may need a small flat head screwdriver in order to free the battery from the board.

After three minutes, put the battery back in the motherboard, close the case, plug it in, reconnect your drives and try booting into BIOS.

Note that this will remove any custom BIOS settings and also cause the BIOS to forget the date and time. If any settings need to be changed in order for Windows to boot, do so before Windows loads. Also set the date and time in BIOS. Then save changes and attempt to boot back into Windows.
 
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Another phrase that can be substituted for bricked is "paperweight mode." It basically means that it no longer functions at all and would need to sent back to the manufacturer for physical repairs. In the case of a corrupt BIOS chip due to failed update, they would replace the BIOS chip on the board.

I often use the phrase paperweight mode when referring to Apple devices and small mobile devices. I usually use the word bricked for larger devices.

I mean, if a computer no longer functions at all, then what is it really good for other than using it as a weight? Unless you intend to use the process of fixing it as a learning experience. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
 
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Thanks fellas hadn't anticipated this much help. Can't believe you found it bubblehead. I've been using my iPhone as a way to access the site here and saw it at one point but then hit an extra link too fast and thought I deleted it somehow cause it wouldn't show after that and even tried searching under its tags. If you couldn't tell Im a noob here. Thanks for linking the two together for me.

I unplugged the computer of all devices and took out that battery for 3 minutes and put it back in. Windows setup started up nicely and installed. But when I start up the drive it will act 3 different ways depending on how it last shutoff I believe. Sometimes it will act like windows was never installed (if I leave usb in and still boot from drive). Other times it just crashes and reboots. Lastly, it will say
"Recovery

your pc couldn't turn off properly

The operating system on your pc failed to turn off properly and needs to be repaired

error code: 0xc0000001". I can sometimes get a clean shutdown when I plug the windows 10 usb and go through the advanced boot menu but it doesn't let me repair.
I suppose it would make a nice paperweight. This is my first personally built pc. You'd think as a T.A. for a year in a computer lab without ever breaking anything id be Ok With this kind of equipment -.-
Thank you all again so much for the responses big learning experience for me certainly.
I don't think I ordered warranty on it do you think it's worth it sending it in for repair or just ordering a new MB? I'm definitely ordering all computer parts with a 2/3 year warranty for sure from now on.
 
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It's an MSI board? It was bought less than two years ago?

The following is from MSI's warranty page. It applies to motherboards, CPU memory, LCD, HDD. "In accordance with original manufacturer's products serial number/barcode, it is warranted for 24 months repair service from its manufacture or purchase date after registering online."

In other words, if it was bought new less than two years ago, they'll RMA it.
 
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Oh that's great news. I was looking at my receipts to refresh myself and guess I messed up when I said everything was a year and half. The video card and ram is from late April last year. The cpu and cooler was late April this year. But my MB is very late August 2014 just 2 months over. My bad on poor info there.. Just barely missed the deadline.. Seems like a good part on msi thanks for that info and your swift reply again sir.
 
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I feel like getting another one of that specific motherboard may lead to this same problem developing again somewhere down the line.

My recommended boards for your CPU.

Be aware that the D3HP model from Gigabyte doesn't have very good MOSFET cooling. I only included it in case you couldn't afford the others. The D3H model from Gigabyte and A88X-PRO model from Asus are both top of the line boards and will serve you well for years to come.
 
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Thank you for the suggestions man! Hope it's been a good weekend for yah. Narrows down my search. I was thinking of getting Intel things from now on. With my cpu and video card being amd as well does the motherboard have to have an amd chipset to be compatible? Or Is the basic compatibles like fm2+ and specific pcie enough to know they'd be compatible?
 
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You need the FM2+ socket and a chipset that can communicate with the CPU. Nowadays, chipsets are paired with sockets so you don't get as lost.

Going Intel may work out well for you. However, please consider the fact that AMD Zen is just around the door. AMD promises a 40% IPC boost in Zen cores compared to Bulldozer and Excavator cores seen in previous CPUs. If single core performance is viable, AMD may re-enter the enthusiast CPU market with a bang.
 
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