looking for a video card to play current and future games

bigjohnny · Oct 20, 2016

i want to play future games like battlefield 1 mass effect 4 fifa 17 gta v dishonored 2 watch dogs 2 ghost recon wildlands etc. at high or maybe even ultra settings on 1366x768 resolution at 60 + fps maybe i will upgrade my monitor next year maybe not i wanted to get an rx 480 but its overkill for my resolution

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intel i3 4170
kingston hyperx blue 1600 8gb
seagate hard drive 1tb
antec earthwatts 80+ bronze 650w green
win 7 ultimate sp1 64bit

weberdarren97 · Oct 20, 2016

I'm more concerned about your CPU holding you back. I mean, it is 3.7GHz, but it's only a dual core.

weberdarren97 · Oct 20, 2016

Your motherboard only has a three phase power delivery system for the CPU and no cooling for the MOSFETs. Your board would likely be very unhappy if you upgraded the CPU. I'd suggest a new CPU and motherboard before considering a new graphics card.

bigjohnny · Oct 20, 2016

weberdarren97 :

what i recently build this

weberdarren97 · Oct 20, 2016

Although that board has plenty of features like good audio and newer types of USB ports, it lacks any cooling for power delivery to use processor. If you look around the socket, above there is a small square. There are two more of these to the left of the socket. Each of those VRMs are paired with a trio of MOSFETs. None of what I just stated has any cooling whatsoever. It's just sitting there on the board, no heatsink or anything.

Your CPU will hold you back if you want to play at anything above medium settings, and will definitely hold back any graphics cards more powerful than the GTX 1060.

Because of the issues on your motherboard, I can't recommend a CPU upgrade without replacing the board. You see, faster CPUs need more power, and your motherboard just isn't built to deliver a lot of power to the CPU.

I have a question. Did you come here to confirm your parts list before you built it, or did you just go ahead and build it?

weberdarren97 · Oct 20, 2016

I'm sorry, there's two above and one to the left. Either way, there's only three. I never recommend anything less than four for an i3, or less than 6 for an i5 or i7.

bigjohnny · Oct 20, 2016

weberdarren97 :

Although that board has plenty of features like good audio and newer types of USB ports, it lacks any cooling for power delivery to use processor. If you look around the socket, above there is a small square. There are two more of these to the left of the socket. Each of those VRMs are paired with a trio of MOSFETs. None of what I just stated has any cooling whatsoever. It's just sitting there on the board, no heatsink or anything.

Your CPU will hold you back if you want to play at anything above medium settings, and will definitely hold back any graphics cards more powerful than the GTX 1060.

Because of the issues on your motherboard, I can't recommend a CPU upgrade without replacing the board. You see, faster CPUs need more power, and your motherboard just isn't built to deliver a lot of power to the CPU.

I have a question. Did you come here to confirm your parts list before you built it, or did you just go ahead and build it?

i just went ahead and built it i dont have the budget to upgrade the cpu i taught maybe until next year

weberdarren97 · Oct 21, 2016

For now, you could get like an RX 470. When you want to step up the RX 480, I would suggest a CPU and motherboard upgrade to prepare the system for the graphics card.

rgd1101 · Oct 21, 2016

MERGED QUESTION
Question from bigjohnny : "is my build good for current and future games"

bigjohnny :

Dronzer Dragneel :

Phillip Corcoran :

bigjohnny · Oct 21, 2016

weberdarren97 :

ok i think i will upgrade but i need a good budget cpu and motherboard any recommendations

weberdarren97 · Oct 21, 2016

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus H97M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $298.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-21 20:03 EDT-0400

I know you said budget, and these are a little expensive, but the point is to get something high enough quality to not have the same problem as you are now.

bigjohnny · Oct 21, 2016

weberdarren97 :

will they last long

Dronzer Dragneel · Oct 21, 2016

bigjohnny :

Its your choice, whether you want 4th gen PC or 6th gen
for 4th gen you'll need to upgrade your mobo + CPU
for 6th gen you'll need to upgrade your mobo + CPU + RAM

6th Gen:-
CPU-- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xwhj4D/intel-cpu-bx80662i56500
Mobo- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dk648d/asus-motherboard-h170progaming
RAM- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R6RFf7/gskill-memory-f42133c15d8gvr
Total- $360

6th gen will last long than 4th gen

bigjohnny · Oct 22, 2016

Dronzer Dragneel :

bigjohnny :

Its your choice, whether you want 4th gen PC or 6th gen
for 4th gen you'll need to upgrade your mobo + CPU
for 6th gen you'll need to upgrade your mobo + CPU + RAM

6th Gen:-
CPU-- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xwhj4D/intel-cpu-bx80662i56500
Mobo- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dk648d/asus-motherboard-h170progaming
RAM- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R6RFf7/gskill-memory-f42133c15d8gvr
Total- $360

6th gen will last long than 4th gen

thanks but the ram i have kingston will getting another brand be problematic also says here the i5 6500 is a little worse than the i5 4590 http://www.game-debate.com/cpu/index.php?pid=2326&pid2=2075&compare=core-i5-6500-3-2ghz-vs-core-i5-4590-3-3ghz

maxalge · Oct 22, 2016

bigjohnny :

you would need ddr4 ram if you went with a i5 6500

also game debate is GARBAGE

the 6500 is better then a 4590

Dronzer Dragneel · Oct 22, 2016

bigjohnny :

Dronzer Dragneel :

thanks but the ram i have kingston will getting another brand be problematic also says here the i5 6500 is a little worse than the i5 4590 http://www.game-debate.com/cpu/index.php?pid=2326&pid2=2075&compare=core-i5-6500-3-2ghz-vs-core-i5-4590-3-3ghz

You need DDR3 ram for i5 4590 and DDR4 for i5 6500 of same brand
Yes you are right about performance
If you plan on upgrading your CPU, definitely go with skylake, this sets the foundation for your upgrade in the future..if possible get i5 6600

bigjohnny · Oct 22, 2016

weberdarren97 :

the motherboard does it support both nvidia and amd graphic cards

ryguybuddy · Oct 22, 2016

bigjohnny :

weberdarren97 :

the motherboard does it support both nvidia and amd graphic cards

yes.

weberdarren97 · Oct 22, 2016

The motherboards suggested support all major video cards, and the RAM suggested by Dronzer is of higher than acceptable quality. I've run G.Skill in many of my machines, it's very good quality memory.

bigjohnny · Oct 22, 2016

weberdarren97 :

any bottlenecks on my system if i go with your list

weberdarren97 · Oct 22, 2016

Both my suggested parts and Dronzer's are more than capable of gaming without hardware bottlenecks. The only slow down would be if you have an HDD and not an SDD. Although it's worth noting that faster drives do not increase FPS, they just shorten session load times.

bigjohnny · Oct 22, 2016

weberdarren97 :

not a problem but i still need a powerful graphics card than can last long

weberdarren97 · Oct 22, 2016

Okay, moving on to the original topic... Kind of strange how that's actually correct grammar.

Anyways, I'd suggest the RX 480. Just be careful, the RX 480 market is littered with garbage. I suggest either the XFX RX 480 GTR or the Asus RX 480 STRIX models. I made a playlist on this.

bigjohnny · Oct 22, 2016

weberdarren97 :

thanks for the heads up but what concerns me is having a amd graphics card and a non amd processor is it bad

weberdarren97 · Oct 22, 2016

Not at all. Mixing brands of GPUs and CPUs is fine. I personally ran a pair of R9 280X's (AMD) on an i5 4690K (Intel) for about two years without any issues whatsoever.

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