So, CPU upgrade? or whole system upgrade?

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So my current system has a i5 4690k @ 4.4Ghz with a 980 Ti, i realized that my CPU is not good enough to keep up with the 980 Ti at high frame rates 100+ (BF1/OW) Fps keeps fluctuating all over the place and CPU keeps hitting 100% constantly during high fps gameplay.

Now im thinking i can either get a Used 4790k for around 250$ (Found a seller) or, i can sell my existing 4690k+Mobo+Ram and pretty much add another 250$ on top of those and go skylake. How much of a difference is there between skylake and the Devil canyon i7?

I know just getting the 4790k would be easier... but is going skylake the smarter decision here?
 
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If you balance the settings with a GTX 980 Ti, it will put it effortlessly. Like I run Battlefield 1 with my GTX 970 at balanced settings and I'm between 90-100 fps consistently.

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Opinions will vary here. Swapping the CPU for a different one is easier, but I'm a bigger fan of just upgrading to a whole system completely and selling my current one (Apart from the GPU maybe).

I'd personally think the jump to Skylake would be worth it. With decent DDR4-2800+ memory and an i7-6700k. You also get the benefit of new hardware with full warranty. You could do this every 1-2 years and always have a new system. It's the best way to get the most out of tech without spending too much.
 

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Yeah by 4690k won't exceed the 4.4Ghz unless i push the voltage above 1.3v.
 

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the thing is, parts are pretty expensive where i live, so i can't afford going with a memory faster than 2400mhz. Anyhow the guy is willing to sell me the 4790k for 210$. i hear the 4790k can overclock a lot better than skylake? can it out perform skylake? since i already own an H80i Cooler
 

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"So my current system has a i5 4690k @ 4.4Ghz with a 980 Ti, i realized that my CPU is not good enough to keep up with the 980 Ti at high frame rates 100+"

Why do you need to keep FPS at 100+? You do know that is pointless? The human eye can't really do it that high.
 

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I have a 144Hz G sync monitor which can pretty much take advantage of all the high frame rates.
 

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Purely on overclocking terms it could outperform Skylake, but that's not definite. There is a chance that it could. Still have to be on the lucky side of the silicon lottery. Performance wise you'll be close if you can overclock it well enough, but what matters is the consistency you get in performance with both i7 processors. i7-6700k might get better scores, but i7-4790k, just like the 6700k, will get you higher consistency in framerates compared to i5's and such.



Unless you're trolling, this is bullshit. This has been debunked and the only people saying this are the people who don't actually own 144Hz monitors or have terrible eye-sight in all honesty. There is a HUGE difference between 144 fps and 72 fps.

 

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In that case it's not your CPU that is the problem it is your GPU. A 980Ti hasn't got a cat in hells chance of pushing 100+ FPS in a AAA game.at 144Hz - add G Sync to that, well - no, you can't do it.

 

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Has it really been "debunked"? Can you please provide links to back up your claim?

 

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So you can't post a link to back up your claim. OK.

 

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I realized playing battlefield 1, my CPU is constantly sitting at 100% on conquest mode 64 Player map. i figured lowering my graphics setting from ultra to high would give me more fps but it remained around the 70-100 but with less GPU usage around the 60-70% with the CPU still being at 100% most of the time.

So lowering graphics setting does not give me more FPS which made me realize that i5's are not meant for 144hz gaming but for 60hz
 

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Maybe, one day you will understand the difference between FPS and Hz.
 

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I use a 144Hz monitor, and I play games at 100+ fps. What does 144Hz allow? It allows the ability to refresh more than 60 frames per second. What happens when a monitor can refresh more than 60 frames per second? You can see more than 60 frames per second. What happens when you can see more than 60 frames per second? You can set your game to a higher FPS than 60 and enjoy whatever the pace your monitor can refresh the amount of frames per second, which is 144.

You never experienced 144 fps on a 144Hz monitor most likely. How can you even discuss this at all? It's like you're saying ''GOD DOESN'T EXIST!!!!" while God is sitting right here next to me. There is literally no point or end to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6igZbQm75s

Tbh It's always the same nonsense. People who have never seen 100fps+ gameplay on a high refresh rate monitor are the ones saying you can't see a difference. The difference is night and day. It's not even minimal.
 

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Also, when we are at it (And I absolutely hate doing this, as all you have to do is perceive and see it for yourself, rather than listening to others), an OFFICIAL source on how eyes and FPS works, and the ''FPS limit you can perceive (BS)'':

http://amo.net/NT/02-21-01FPS.html

The one thing I hate is when people tell me what I can see myself is a lie. It's the biggest nonsense and frustration you can possibly cause.

The overwhelming solution to a more realistic game play, or computer video has been to push the human eye past the misconception of only being able to perceive 30 FPS. Pushing the Human Eye past 30 FPS to 60 FPS and even 120 FPS is possible, ask the video card manufacturers, an eye doctor, or a Physiologist. We as humans CAN and DO see more than 60 frames a second.
 

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http://amo.net/ Really?
 

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Well done. You posted a link from 2001 - it's only about 15 years old.
 

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And actually, it still is true today. The points raised there are 100% relevant today in 2016. You still don't know what 144 fps is like, but you keep judging ones who know what It's like. Worth to keep criticizing? Nope.

More importantly, there are not many sources that value the truth behind a human being able to see it yes or no. So unless you've seen it yourself, you can't judge it. So how do you judge it? Can you explain? Why do you think a human being wouldn't be able to see the difference? I'm genuinely interested in why you believe in the empty side of the glass for this one. It surely can't be because you've seen a few people on the web say ''you can't see it''. Unless you aren't really old and your eyes work relatively well, It's easy to see. And It's also easy to be amazed by it, because the experience is spectacular.