G4400/RX 460 4GB RoG Strix

FnaticMeister · Oct 24, 2016

So I've gotten a $500 budget to build another PC. Thank god I found a copy of Windows 10, and all I need is everything including the monitor and keyboard/mouse.

I was looking around, found some great deals, and managed to pick up a RX 460 4GB ROG STRIX for $110! So, I was very happy, and I'm wondering if this will operate okay.

CPU: Pentium G4400- $49.99

GPU: RX 460 4GB ROG STRIX- $110

Mobo:Gigabyte GA-H110M-A LGA 1151 mATX Motherboard- $43.96

RAM: HyperX Fury 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4 2400 RAM - $42.99

HDD: WD Blue 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA III 6.0Gb/s 3.5"- $42.99

PSU: EVGA 600 B1 100-B1-0600-KR 80+ BRONZE- $49.99

CASE: NZXT S340 ATX Mid Tower Case w/ Side Window - Black- $47.96

Monitor: HP 22ER 21.5" IPS LED Monitor- $80

Keyboard and mouse, probably getting a Devastator II combo. Want your opinions on this $500 budget build!

Oh- and for those of you wondering how I got some stuff for cheap, I had a friend that didn't want any of his stuff that he never used so I got them for really cheap, like the GPU, case, monitor, etc. They are in original packaging and is new.

CTurbo · Oct 24, 2016

It looks good for the price. Just get a better psu. The G4400 is great in some games, and terrible in others.

FnaticMeister · Oct 24, 2016

CTurbo :

I got you, thought of getting the i3-6100 but for the price, not worth it. Still taking suggestions and comments!
And also, what's wrong with the 600w PSU?

Cubsfan15 · Oct 24, 2016

Just a higher quality one, since you won't be drawing a lot of power this

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/4Vzv6h/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii430b

Will do fine.

CTurbo · Oct 24, 2016

Yeah 600w is more than enough. That's just a low quality unit.

jeffredo · Oct 24, 2016

You don't need a better power supply. EVGA B1 series are reliable and your system isn't going to begin to draw enough power to tax it.

FnaticMeister · Oct 25, 2016

jeffredo :

That's what I thought, thanks, still looking for suggestions if my overall system build is good or not!

FnaticMeister · Oct 25, 2016

Cubsfan15 :

Why would I get that when I can get a reputable EVGA B1 series 600W for $5 more? LOL

CTurbo · Oct 25, 2016

You don't need a better power supply. EVGA B1 series are reliable and your system isn't going to begin to draw enough power to tax it.

This is incorrect. The EVGA B1 series is NOT very good. They are unreliable when compared to other psus in the price range. I recommend getting something better.

jeffredo · Oct 25, 2016

CTurbo :

I respectfully disagree with you as do many other professional review sites plus about 2,000 verified buyers at Amazon and Newegg who give it 4/5 eggs or 4.5 stars on average.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=351
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/04/28/evga_600b_entry_level_power_supply_review/9
http://www.legitreviews.com/evga-500b-500w-power-supply-review_122110/8
http://www.legitreviews.com/evga-500b-500w-power-supply-review_122110/8

Are they as good as a gold rated the same wattage? Of course not. They are budget power supplies. Given the target market they are just fine and should give many years of reliable service. Again, given the hardware the OP has chosen there is no need to spend more than what the EVGA 600B costs for a power supply. It would be a waste on a modest system. He's not going to use more than 400W at load (if that).

Anecdotally speaking, I have an even cheaper EVGA power supply in one of my PCs - the 500 W1 80+. Its paired with an i5-4590k and two GTX 950s in SLI (stock speeds for all). It easily handles it - quiet, cool and reliable. Got it on sale for $29.99 a few years back. The reason I chose it was because of the JonnyGuru.com review recommendation. Again, EVGA budget power supplies aren't bad choices for the money.

CTurbo · Oct 25, 2016

I have personally had to replace probably a dozen or so EVGA 500B/600B power supplies that have failed in gaming systems. These psus are not meant for gaming. they are built for office uses. They are made with inferior low quality caps. Yes they are "budget psus" but they are not even GOOD in their price range. There are better options for the same price or cheaper. It's not like I'm telling the OP to go spend $20-30 more on a psu. There is no reason to get one of these.

Gold rating has NOTHING to do with quality. There are some total GARBAGE Gold rated psus on the market.

EVGA does no make their own psus. Instead, they rely on other "OEM" companies to make psus for them at which time they slap a EVGA label on them and put them in a box. This means that there are vastly different levels of quality among the EVGA product line. Some of them are top notch awesome units, some of them are good, some merely average, and some are below average. None of them are garbage at least, but the B1's are the worst.

Have you ever even read typical user reviews??? newegg and amazon reviews can't possibly be taken seriously. Here are some examples of what you get from those.

"plugged it in and it worked" - 5 stars
"shipping took forever" -1 star
"box arrived damaged" - 1 star
"the neon light looks great in my case" - 5 stars

Only a very small percentage on those reviews are truly relevant. Most of the 1 star reviews for anything can be discarded. A lot of the 5 star reviews are from paid reviewers. Many people that gave it 5 stars for because "it worked" aren't going to go back on there after it dies 4 months later and change it.

The EVGA 600B is $49 right now

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $49.99

Here are two BETTER MORE reliable units for cheaper that would work perfectly in his system.
http://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/FQ648d,4Vzv6h/

and for a mere $5 more, he could get the WAY better WAY more reliable Seasonic S12II 520w Bronze if he felt like he needed more than 430/450w

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ B&H)
Total: $54.99

This site's very own tier list rates them as tier 3 which typically is not recommended for gaming systems. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

http://www.overclock.net/t/1500086/why-you-should-not-buy-an-evga-400-600-and-500b-600b

Bottom line, it's not a completely terrible psu, but it has a history AND reputation for being unreliable. The hard fact is, you can simply do better in and around the same price range.

Cubsfan15 · Oct 25, 2016

Treat the extra $5 you spend on the psu as a warranty instead of having it fail and spending an extra 50, plus your time to deal with it. Imo please go with CTurbos recommendation, he is a psu master after all.

FnaticMeister · Oct 25, 2016

CTurbo :

I have personally had to replace probably a dozen or so EVGA 500B/600B power supplies that have failed in gaming systems. These psus are not meant for gaming. they are built for office uses. They are made with inferior low quality caps. Yes they are "budget psus" but they are not even GOOD in their price range. There are better options for the same price or cheaper. It's not like I'm telling the OP to go spend $20-30 more on a psu. There is no reason to get one of these.

Gold rating has NOTHING to do with quality. There are some total GARBAGE Gold rated psus on the market.

EVGA does no make their own psus. Instead, they rely on other "OEM" companies to make psus for them at which time they slap a EVGA label on them and put them in a box. This means that there are vastly different levels of quality among the EVGA product line. Some of them are top notch awesome units, some of them are good, some merely average, and some are below average. None of them are garbage at least, but the B1's are the worst.

Have you ever even read typical user reviews??? newegg and amazon reviews can't possibly be taken seriously. Here are some examples of what you get from those.

"plugged it in and it worked" - 5 stars
"shipping took forever" -1 star
"box arrived damaged" - 1 star
"the neon light looks great in my case" - 5 stars

Only a very small percentage on those reviews are truly relevant. Most of the 1 star reviews for anything can be discarded. A lot of the 5 star reviews are from paid reviewers. Many people that gave it 5 stars for because "it worked" aren't going to go back on there after it dies 4 months later and change it.

The EVGA 600B is $49 right now

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $49.99

Here are two BETTER MORE reliable units for cheaper that would work perfectly in his system.
http://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/FQ648d,4Vzv6h/

and for a mere $5 more, he could get the WAY better WAY more reliable Seasonic S12II 520w Bronze if he felt like he needed more than 430/450w

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ B&H)
Total: $54.99

This site's very own tier list rates them as tier 3 which typically is not recommended for gaming systems. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

http://www.overclock.net/t/1500086/why-you-should-not-buy-an-evga-400-600-and-500b-600b

Bottom line, it's not a completely terrible psu, but it has a history AND reputation for being unreliable. The hard fact is, you can simply do better in and around the same price range.

Hmm. Thanks for the suggestion, I'm looking into it. And I'm not concerned for the PSU breaking as it comes with the original 3 year warranty, so.
CTurbo, any other suggestions that would be good in a gaming PC build? Frankly, I would want somewhere around 450 watts, just something to make a minor change from here to there. Thanks for all the support!
UPDATE: Thinking about getting this and saving the money to get more RAM and others. Good enough? A lot of youtubers who make system builds were really recommending this power supply ,and I won't be going off, I'll only be playing games such as CS:GO, COD BO3, etc. Not really over demanding triple A titles.

CTurbo · Oct 25, 2016

UPDATE: Thinking about getting this and saving the money to get more RAM and others. Good enough? A lot of youtubers who make system builds were really recommending this power supply ,and I won't be going off, I'll only be playing games such as CS:GO, COD BO3, etc. Not really over demanding triple A titles.

Getting what?

FnaticMeister · Oct 26, 2016

CTurbo :

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-WHITE-Warranty-Supply-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU

jeffredo · Oct 26, 2016

FnaticMeister :

Its more than good enough from my experience owning one. Again, I have an i5-4690k and two GTX 950s in SLI using that power supply and its completely fine (400W at load). The Pentium and single RX460 you're looking at won't come close to pushing it hard (you're only going to use about 250W at load).

CTurbo · Oct 26, 2016

It's your money. Get whatever you want. I think I've made my opinion pretty clear. The psu is the single most important part of your build, and is the LAST part that you should cheap out on.

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