Dual graphic cards configuration (Z800)

insertia

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Hi there,
I am a quite long user of this forum, however unitl now I had no account here. Because I couldnt find an answer to my question, I decided to join and ask for help. I hope I will have an occasion to give the favor back.

On the topic side, I have an unusual problem with usual thing - I want to build dual graphic cards configuration without SLI for three outputs. I have read many topics that it is possible, and I seen such configuration myself. None of the topics provided any solution in more complicated cases. I want to ask how to configure that because I encountered some issues. Here is what I have done till now:

Config of computer:
HP Z800 dual Xeon, 1100W (1250W) power supply, 24GB RAM and Quadro FX3800. Monitors are two Z2440W and single LP2475W. Tried with GeForce 750Ti as a second card. Computer have 4 or 5 hard drives (I forgot :) ). System Windows 7 64bit.

I want to extend the build to second graphic card. I tried this with GeForce GTX750Ti, but computer did not allow for that. Graphic driver went crazy and didnt started second card. It was present in Devices Manager, but there were no output signal. Nvidia Nview and the other manager wasnt starting, and if started once per few tries i crashed down immediately. Of course drivers was reinstalled and installed, cards were swithched between ports (both times first x16 port were working) and BIOS setting was set to first X16 bootable, second passive. I dont know any further settings I should change.

I think the key for this is to mount same second card and then it should be possible a lot easier. I called my pal who is very experienced with those things, he said he have done this once on training with 12 monitors connected to workstation (Z800 or Z820). It is possible the reinstallation of OS is required but I would prefer to avoid that.

Can someone advise me with that before I will buy another quadro? Maybe someone had an occasion to configure such thing.
Other possible issue is that this mainboard (Z800) is pretty unique, it has two chipsets which have some pros but may have cons such as configuration problems. Here is some additional info.
http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/downloads/Z820vsZ800_WhitePaper.pdf

Edit: forgot to mention, I wanted to have DVI on LP and on the other card two DP or DP and DVI.

Kind regards, John
 

FnaticMeister

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I upvote this, you have to look at your capabilities. You will not be able to run these cards in SLI, but only the GTX 750 Ti as a secondary card in your case. Good luck!
 

ravenjedmanicdao

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Are you trying to say that you are trying to pair a Quadro with a GTX as a secondary? impossible. SLI requires the cards to be the same. However, with AMD Crossfire, you can mix different GPU's that support Crossfire, they will combine together and it should work. Otherwise, your GTX is going to be laying there, idle.
 

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Depending on his PCI-E lanes, I'm sure he can configure it so he has the GTX 750 ti as a secondary card to power up another display, am I right?
 

ravenjedmanicdao

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I am sorry OP. I misread your post, I thought that you are trying to run SLI with Quadro and GTX. Yes, you will be able to run the GTX 750 Ti as a separate one. However, you will NOT get increased performance. This will require you to set this up on the NVIDIA Control Panel > Set up multiple displays

If you do anything GPU intensive, make sure it is on the display where the GTX is connected, as it has significantly more performance. The Quadro can be for anything.
 

ravenjedmanicdao

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Yes. I misread his post, but yes, you can set it up to run without SLI.
 

insertia

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SLI increases performance of card by adding more cores and memory but it doesnt allow to use second card outputs. Card is passive then. I need to connect third monitor.

I know it is possible, I am asking how to do that - after cards are in computer and running, second card doesnt send any signal to its monitor. Device manager see both cards, but one have a asterisk message, and overall there are low graphic performance (= driver is broken). I cannot run nvidia control panel to set up the config. How to set up this config?
 

insertia

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Ok, I contacted Nvidia today and this is what they said - I will post it maybe someone will require such info and will be able to find it right here.

Quadro cards are not capable to work with GeForce cards because they do not have unified drivers. There are available cards in supported products section in driver web page on nvidia.com.
Same cards should be available immediately in OS under single driver, same series cards (such as fx3800 and 4000 for example) too. System should recognize two cards but use one driver for them.
It may be impossible to config Quadro + GeForce config because software for that are the same, but slightly different in code, that is the reason it always crashed for me when tried to do something with FX3800 and 750Ti plugged in. Same config may be possible for ATI + nvidia config due to completely separate software for both. Somehow such config may work but it is go&try config and requires extensive testing if it will work or not under various OS settings.
I dont have second card yet, after I will buy it I will post if it is working or not.

Another useful info which I received from one experienced HP engineer is that he had situation with two Quadro 4000 with 2 monitors, each connected to separate card. Second card did not send any signal, and it was necessary to connect SLI cable to make it work. SLI was not configured, but cable had to be attached. Guy from Nvidia said it may be possible that somehow it is required by specific configuration, but he had no occasion to see such thing himself.

Regards