Need to update graphics card - GTX 260

ERTO MUDD

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Hello,

This is my first post to this website. I am kind of excited to finally join after actively reading on here for a while. I just recently purchased a gaming PC for my son (iBUYPOWER WA550G) and I am excited to see how it performs compared to the old setup I currently am using haha. If anyone has any experience or thoughts on that pc let me know, would love to hear!

The reason for my post is for the pc I am currently using. It can not handle some of the games like it use to and constant crashes occur. This happens on even some of the lowest graphical settings. Also, using Windows 10 seems to have created problems as far as keeping the driver upated, it will automatically roll back to an old driver. Microsoft told me that it is because that is the last driver they have confirmed compatible even though NVIDIA clearly states its the latest driver update for "Windows 10".

Either way, my main questions are;

How do I know which one will be compatible?
How will I know if it will fit my current mother board and tower correctly? (sorry if that sounds funny)
Do I need to upgrade the power supply? (It seems to be working much much muuuch harder these days.
Am I better off getting a completely brand new setup?

Hopefully someone can help me out here lol. I am really hoping I do not have to purchase an entirely new pc. If you have any questions let me know and I can do my best to answer them. Looking forward to some responses, thanks!


Processor: Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz
Motherboard: Dell Inc. 0x231R
Memory: DDR3 8GB
GPU: GeForce GTX 260
 
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Now I'm not sure your budget but if you had maybe 900-950 maybe even 850 if you already have a good monitor but i'd go with a whole new setup. If you need help with the build of a new set up I would gladly help and yes I would see why the gtx 260 isn't doing it's duty anymore just look at this comparison for a newer card that costs about the same as the gtx 260 used too http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB-vs-Nvidia-GTX-260/3639vs3160 any help you need feel free to let me know

zahir1509

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The Dell Inc 0x231 didn't turn up any results in search. So I am not sure which motherboard you're talking about. It'd be helpful if you could provide additional details. Preferably, install Speccy or HWinFo and post the motherboard details.
Anyway, if that motherboard supports the GTX 260, then it surely has a PCIe 2.0 x16 slot, which would support modern day graphic cards(which are PCIe 3.0 but are backward compatible with 2.0 motherboard slots). Your processor is a bit old, so I'd suggest going for the GTX 1050 Ti or an RX 470. Anything better would likely be bottlenecked by your CPU, although by a slight margin. Also, the GTX 1050 and the RX 470 both consume less power than the GTX 260 did so you should be fine with your current power supply.
 
The newest Nvidia driver for that card is 342, this is significant because the newest drivers for more recent cards is 375.70. Are you trying to install the wrong ones?

The other potential problem is that some pre-built systems use non standard components. So while you may have the expansion slot for a new card, the card itself may not fit. Fortunately it's easy to find the dimensions on videocards. I'd start by searching for the dimensions on your current card, any new card that size or smaller will fit.

Power supplies don't last forever, so yeah it's possible yours is dying. Any time you have issues with hardware while gaming, the PSU is an obvious suspect. Gaming demands a lot of power. Hopefully it's not a proprietary design and you can just switch it out for a new one if necessary. You can take a look for yourself or give the model number of your computer. I think you have a decent enough budget gaming computer if you upgrade the videocard to a GTX 1050 or equivalent.
 

ERTO MUDD

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Thanks for the help! I downloaded speccy and this is what I got for the motherboard.

Motherboard
Manufacturer Dell Inc.
Model 0X231R (CPU 1)
Version A01
Chipset Vendor Intel
Chipset Model DMI Host Bridge
Chipset Revision 11
Southbridge Vendor Intel
Southbridge Model P55
Southbridge Revision 05
System Temperature 22 °C
BIOS
Brand Dell Inc.
Version A01
Date 8/11/2009
Voltage
CPU CORE 1.008 V
MEMORY CONTROLLER 3.056 V
+3.3V 3.312 V
+5V 5.134 V
+12V 11.840 V
-12V -8.704 V
-5V -8.704 V
+5V HIGH THRESHOLD 4.838 V
CMOS BATTERY 2.928 V
PCI Data
Slot PCI
Slot Type PCI
Slot Usage Available
Bus Width 32 bit
Slot Designation PCI1
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number 0
Slot PCI-E
Slot Type PCI-E
Slot Usage In Use
Data lanes x1
Slot Designation PCIE1
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number 1
Slot PCI-E
Slot Type PCI-E
Slot Usage Available
Data lanes x1
Slot Designation PCIE2
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number 2
Slot PCI-E
Slot Type PCI-E
Slot Usage In Use
Data lanes x16
Slot Designation PCIE3
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number 3
 

ERTO MUDD

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Hi. I am definitely doing a clean install of the 342.00 driver, released on 10/26/2016. The version it keeps reverting to after shutdown/restart is 341.92 released on 11/09/2015. :-(
 

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Now I'm not sure your budget but if you had maybe 900-950 maybe even 850 if you already have a good monitor but i'd go with a whole new setup. If you need help with the build of a new set up I would gladly help and yes I would see why the gtx 260 isn't doing it's duty anymore just look at this comparison for a newer card that costs about the same as the gtx 260 used too http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB-vs-Nvidia-GTX-260/3639vs3160 any help you need feel free to let me know
 
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open your case, measure the space

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that ibuypower "gaming" computer is anything but, its sad how underpowered it is
wish you would have come here and asked before buying


your setup would be a LOT better with a simple gpu upgrade, maybe also a new psu depending on what you currently have
 

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That motherboard would do just fine. Like typosl1998 said, it'd be a good idea to go for a whole new setup, but if your budget doesn't permit that, just swap out your old GTX 260 for a new graphic card and you're good to go. If you do go for cards that are somewhat large in size, make sure your case has sufficient space for them to fit. If not, you can either buy a new case, or you can go for compact graphic cards, like the Zotac GTX 1050 Ti Mini.