Pc was bootlooping 1 month ago now it is bootlooping again

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Specs: Gtx 970, MSI 970 gaming motherboard, fx 8350 cpu, CX 600W PSU, Bitfenix Nova case, 1tb Seagate barracuda hdd, 8gb crucial ballistix sport ddr3 ram, a wireless network card, hyper 212 evo cpu cooler.

So my pc was bootlooping one month ago after a failed overclock, then i tryed all differensiert ram combinations, clearing dust. Clearing CMOS several times (with taking out the battery idk if same effect. And occasionally it would turn on and let me reboot coupple times but, then Maybe after third or forth reboot it would start to bootloop again. The bootloop goes like this: Cpu and gpu fans turn on for a second and the wireless internet LED lights up for a second and same with HDD motherboard LED lights up. (Exactly samme issue now) Last time i just plugged it into my brothers psu in the end and i started. Plugged in my psu and it still worked fine. So then it started working for a month and i thought everything was good. But then i just normally turned it off when i was going to school. But when I came home it started to bootloop again, this time i checked all posible ram configurations too i checked my AMD cpu to see if it was put in correctly. And same thing happend, it would occasionally bot after switching some ram but that just seemed to be random as it didnt keep working. Anyone got tips or clues of what the problem might be.

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This part sounds to me like the possible cause... have you replaced the PSU for more than just a boost?.. Well, it's not exactly a boost but it can preload motherboard capacitors for a successfull boot. PSUs can fail with different symptoms.. one is they can become weak, and can fail to supply enough power to boot a computer. It's the same situation as when a computer needs to boot twice before it completes loading...
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Nothing is overclocked right now, but i have history of a undervolt oc but i reset that overclock immedieatly when i got my pc back up. And i tried to run a memtest but i cant get my computer to boot for more then a split second so that didnt do anything.

I think the BIOS is up to date but im trying to give it the latest update via USB but as said i sadly cant get anything to boot, any ideas?
 
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MSI gtx 970 the one with only one fan if you know what i mean.
And i am using the CORSAIR CX 600 W psu

 
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My brother has a r9 290 but idk if i am allowed to borrow it as he is at his computer most of the time and doesnt understand fully why i would borrow it. And if it would bot afterwards it might just be random.

 
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No only hardware turn on for like a split second.

 
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I red everything and i tryed most of the stuff, but there was this one thing i got s
Hung up with. Speaker cable i fond it in my drawer and it wasnt plugged in but the red wire on it had lost grip from the big circle end of the speaker cable so idk if it will work.

 
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This part sounds to me like the possible cause... have you replaced the PSU for more than just a boost?.. Well, it's not exactly a boost but it can preload motherboard capacitors for a successfull boot. PSUs can fail with different symptoms.. one is they can become weak, and can fail to supply enough power to boot a computer. It's the same situation as when a computer needs to boot twice before it completes loading Windows. I had a computer with this double boot symptom for a while and the PSU finally failed. Without buying a new PSU you could temporarily interchange the PSU with your brother... either your computer may work normally.. or not and you'll know it's not the PSU. Your brother's computer may bootloop, it may load Windows after a second reboot, or it may work normally for a while... but you'll know if the PSU is the cause or not.
 
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So you are saying if i plug it into my brothers psu and it Boots and i plug it into my old one and it still boots. Its my psu ? Thats what i did last and my psu survived for around 1 month is that posible Even for a failing psu?
We cant swap psu s as his gpu needs more power then mine would 600w be fine for r9 290?
 
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And i have had random occasions where my pc would boot once just after changing some ram, but now it never does that so it almost sees random if its gonna boot or not.

 
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Got it to bot but it wouldn't post on screen or give mouse power so turned off cleared CMOS etc and then BOOTloops without it Even making my gpu fans spin
 
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I atleast want to try my brothers psu first. Because it booted today without posting after installing a 500gb hdd a friend just gave to me randomly. But u might be right.
 
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I was also wondering. If my friend has a like a really old Maybe like 8 year old psu with enough watts can i use that or?

 
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I will but btw. I got to try my brothers when he sent to training and i tryed 5 times and and it worked every time it was plugged into his psu and when i plugged mine in it bootloops so thank god it wasnt anything Else.

I kinda want to sell my pc and buy Intel rx 470 or gtx 1060 3gb build (have gotten offers covering Those builds) so i wondered what would be the cheapest and best gtx 970 that provins enough power for my gtx 970?

 
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He didnt have a spare 550 watt only lower. But would this one be good enough quality for me or is it worth saving more for a better one? https://www.komplett.no/product/847390/datautstyr/stroemforsyning/enheter/corsair-vs550-550w-psu#
 
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Check the links for PSU to Graphics Card power requirements.. check both charts and compare, if they should have different values, take the higher value for best performance. If the Corsair VS550, 550W PSU meets requirements to run the video card you want, it's what you should get.

Power requirements for graphics cards Chart
https://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article/printer/power-requirements-for-graphics-cards

POWER REQUIREMENTS FOR GRAPHICS CARDS
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm


UPDATE:
Here are detailed requirements per GPU:

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
RX 470 = 450 watt PSU
GTX 1060 3GB-6GB = 450 watt PSU
GTX 970 = 500 watt PSU

https://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article/printer/power-requirements-for-graphics-cards
Radeon RX 480 - 30A and a 500W PSU minimum
Radeon RX 470 - Not included. But should have same or lower wattage requirements as RX 480
GeForce GTX 1060 - 20A and a 400W PSU minimum
GeForce GTX 970 - 28A and a 500W PSU minimum

Or use this Corsair PSU calculator:
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/psu-finder

Corsair VS550 ATX Power Supply delivers 42A Maximum
http://www.corsair.com/es-mx/vs-seriestm-vs550-550-watt-power-supply


Best and cheapest GTX 970 Graphics card: Cheapest; Zotac. Cheapest of the best; ASUS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600536049%204814&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=36


Features and Pros/Cons Comparison MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte
http://www.overclock.net/t/1516121/gtx-970-comparison-strix-vs-msi-gaming-vs-gigabyte-g1
 
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CORSAIR calculator recommendes 600-650 psu s for my specs. But i have experienced and heard that cx psu s are bad quality and the vs 550 apparently is too. Little. So got any recommendations on psu s i could buy that are good quality. Because i am gonna have to take that CORSAIR calculator result with a grain of salt
 
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OK, forget Corsair and try on the MSI calculator
MSI Power Supply Calculator
https://www.msi.com/power-supply-calculator

Either Antec or EVGA would be a good choice. The EVGA Supernova 650W for the price and 7 year warranty.
Click either of the Style that best suites your requirements (G2, GS, G1, GQ, G2L)

Power Supply Charts
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html

Antec VPF Series 650W PSU (Tier 3)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/antec-vpf-650w-power-supply,4232.html

EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G2, 80+ GOLD 650W, (Tier 1)
Fully Modular, EVGA ECO Mode, 7 Year Warranty
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0550-Y1/dp/B0106RDIN2%3Fpsc%3D1%26SubscriptionId%3D14H876SFAKFS0EHBYQ02%26tag%3Dgpbuilds-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB0106RDI3W?th=1

EVGA 650 GQ, 80+ GOLD 650W (Tier 1)
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0550-Y1/dp/B017HA3SQ8%3Fpsc%3D1%26SubscriptionId%3D14H876SFAKFS0EHBYQ02%26tag%3Dgpbuilds-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB0106RDI3W?th=1

 
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Dont think i can spend 850norwegian kroners on a psu around 100 dollars since stuff is expensive here. But i found this 600w gold certified psu from evga for 600 kroners with no shipping.
https://www.netonnet.no/art/datakomponenter/stromforsyning/evga-600w-white/226206.11091/?utm_source=prisjakt.no&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=prisjakt_prisjamforelse

It has no sort of modularity but idk if that Matteus too much
 
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