PC Compatibility Check

jcj1203

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Hello Everyone,

Thanks for viewing my thread! Just have a couple of questions regarding a possible GPU upgrade I want to perform.

Firstly, Ill outline my specs:

OS: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
CPU: Intel Core i5 650 @ 3.20GHz
RAM:8GB (4x2GB)
Motherboard: Intel Corporation DQ57TM
Power Supply: X-Power ATX-400T (400W)
GPU:GT 730 2 GB (Gigabyte)
HDD: S465GB Seagate ST500DM002-1BD142
Optical Drives: SH-S223F

Next, I just have a couple of questions:

1. Is it possible, with the above specs, to upgrade my GPU to a GTX 750ti (Thinking Gigabytes version.)
2. What steps are involved in safely doing this?

Thanks in advance!
 
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xFeaRDom

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Firstly, going off one of the TomsHardware GPU upgrade ratings (Can't find the thread) you would not see a suitable performance upgrade doing this. Might I recommend the GTX 1050 or 1050 Ti? That would be a really good upgrade, and it costs probably around £40 extra over the 750Ti, this would be a great upgrade from a GTX 730.

From doing this, I will recommend upgrading your PSU as well, but this is not a major step, as it will require (Depending on the GPU) extra Power coming from the PSU.

If you get this one: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=6054#kf

You will need a 6 Pin Power Connector.

I will recommend a couple of good, low priced PSUs.

Such as this one: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb9

This has the 6 Pin Power connector on it.

And changing the GPU is really easy. It will most likely be attached by a screw either inside or outside of the case (Where the VGA, DVI, HDMI or DP ports) are, and there will most likely be a latch or lever holding it into the motherboard. Just simply press that down (Do all of this gently to ensure no damage is obtained from doing this process) - Also make sure you unplug your Computer and let it sit for around a minute for it to drain of all power. You can also touch a metal casing to ground yourself from all static charge. There are many guides out there that will assist you, such as this:

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/pc-upgrades/how-upgrade-your-graphics-card-3470162/

You can also search for more that may be better for you.

Also, if anyone comes in and says that your Motherboard is PCI-E 2.0 and you'll lose performance, its a little white lie. I have a GTX 970 and I have no performance loss running on a PCI-E 2.0 Lane.


Although you can probably benefit from upgrading your Motherboard, RAM and Processor, as well as getting an SSD, the GPU will also be a good upgrade, it is sort of even both ways, except the GPU is the cheaper upgrade.

Depending on what games you play, the GPU upgrade will not necessarily be worth it, if you're playing on games on the settings you like, then you don't really need to upgrade, in which case I will recommend upgrading to an SSD, that will definitely help in performance, as well as maybe upgrading to 16GB of RAM, may provide a little bit of performance increase, but that is less recommended as you have 8GB already.

There are other upgrades that can help performance-wise such as this:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/63HZkL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/63HZkL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $234.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-01 10:48 EDT-0400

Which is a CPU, Motherboard and RAM upgrade. The main upgrade is the CPU.
 

Bmacker

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Yes, please for the love of God buy the 1050 or 1050ti. Save yourself a headache and get something running on the Pascal architecture.

As for your PSU choice, non-modular PSUs are a pain in the ass, but if you don't mind, then that's fine as well.
 

jcj1203

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Thanks a lot for your suggestions. It is quite a slow process but I do plan to eventually upgrade the remainder of the PC as some of the components are very, very old.

The thing is, its not even a GTX 730, its actually at GT 730, so I would hope that upgrading to the GTX Range would improve game quality substantially.

Was just wondering if it was physically possible to do it, as I have the rest of the components.

Thanks again.

 

jcj1203

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Thanks for your reply.

The PSU (along with all other parts) I already have running my PC. I was just wondering if my current set-up was capable of a 750ti.

Can my specs handle a 1050 or 1050ti do you think?

 

xFeaRDom

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Your specs probably can handle a 1050(Ti), but you would need a PSU upgrade, as I cannot seem to find information about your current PSU, so I do not know which power connectors you have on there (If possible, can you check if it has either a 6 pin, or 6+2 pin VGA/PCI-E connector?)
 

jcj1203

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Whereabouts would I look for these ports? (Sorry to be a pain)

 

xFeaRDom

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The cables off of your Power Supply, I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't have one. If you need help on what to look for, search PCI-E Power Cables and look at the connectors, it'll be something similar to that.
 

jcj1203

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Just looking at the Motherboard now and on the board it says PCIe x16 above where the card is plugged in, is the GTX 1050ti PCIe x16 compatible?
 

xFeaRDom

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Didn't mean that, but its a simple misunderstanding.

All of the cables coming out of your Power Supply, I'm guessing they're either sleeved, or they're black, yellow and red, what I meant by looking for the PCI-E Power Cable is something like this as the connector: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/power-supply-specifications-atx-reference,review-32338-12.html

For you to run a GTX 1050(Ti) You will need either a 6 Pin Connector or a 6+2 Pin Connector (Depending on the GPU you purchase - IF you get a GTX 1050)

With MOST GTX 750Ti's you will not need this, although, unless you get a second hand GTX 750Ti, the extra £40 will be worth it for a GTX 1050(Ti), and it is much more powerful than the 750Ti.
 

jcj1203

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So the GTX 1050ti cant run of the PCIe x16?
 

xFeaRDom

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The way certain GPUs work is as follows:

The PCI-E Slot can only power the GPU of up to 75W (I believe), and when the larger cards that need more power, such as the 1060, 1070 and 1080, RX480 Etc (The High-End Cards) they need extra power, hence the VGA/PCI-E Connection straight from the PSU. Some of the lower end cards, such as the 1050Ti, some are powered with and without this connection.

The way it works is that you insert the GPU into the PCI-E x16 slot, and add an ADDITIONAL power connection straight from the PSU. So it can be powered fully.
 
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jcj1203

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Now I understand. Thank you very much for your help and support.
 

jcj1203

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Now I understand. Thank you very much for your help and support.
 

xFeaRDom

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No Worries!

Glad I could help, apologies for not explaining it fully straight away.

Have a great day!

- Dom.