I7 2600k and evga 780ti, evga 1080 ftw upgrade

Icy074 · Nov 1, 2016

Dear community,

I got a question about my computer and a possible upgrade.

At the moment I got this build:

I7 2600k
Evga 780ti dual classified
16 gb ram
Benq 2411z 144hz
And a ssd

I play the game Battlefield 4 and 1. With OBS for twitch almost everytime.

My settings: 1366x768 144hz on low.
(I know its low! Always played 800x600 crt)

When I play Battlefield I notice avg fps 110 and drops below 100. Since I play 144hz I notice it instandly.

The question. Is it worth upgrading to a evga 1070 or evga 1080? Or will my cpu bottleneck since I play this low resolution. Will I be able to get 150fps + avg fps on my current battlefield settings?

ICy074

EpIckFa1LJoN · Nov 1, 2016

Your cpu is going to bottleneck, and unless you upgrade to 1080p anything more than a 1050 will be wasted power.

This is a budget build I put together for people who will be using 720p or any other resolution less than 1080p.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($39.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($19.90 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 2GB SC GAMING Video Card ($119.99 @ B&H)
Case: Zalman Z3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($24.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit ($106.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $486.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-01 15:10 EDT-0400

Your processor is a little bit better than that one but for less than FHD, a 1050 should be fine

elbert · Nov 1, 2016

The GTX 1080 would work great with your i7 2600. I would suggest tho overclocking a bit and if you need a good heat sink let me know.

EpIckFa1LJoN · Nov 1, 2016

elbert :

dude you are high. The 1080 is still going to bottleneck, and at that resolution its basically throwing money away. I was gaming with an i7 3770K overclocked, on liquid cooling, at 1440p resolution and it was bottlenecking my 1080. If you're running at 1080p there's absolutely no reason to spend $200 extra on a 1080 when a 1070 will do the same, at less than 1080p you're throwing money away with either of those.

And I literally sold my 3770k for $150 not a month ago, for that price you might as well get a 6th gen i5. And again with a 1080 you need at least more than a 3rd gen i7, maybe even 4th gen, but for the price they are at you can almost get a 6th gen i5, which will run it fine. But again, it's pointless unless you are gaming at 1440p. At less than 1080p you should be good with a 1050.

Since you are running a 144Hz monitor, you're probably going to need more juice than that though. I forgot to take into account the Ti version of the 700 series. The only thing that's worth it to upgrade to from a 780 Ti is a 1060 3GB. But I honestly don't see any reason a 1060 would't hit 144fps on that monitor.

Icy074 · Nov 1, 2016

So a gtx 1050 will be better(more fps) then my current 780ti? Since im looking for atleast a gpu that give me 150+- fps on 1366x768(maybe 1080p) all low settings on games like bf1/4

EpIckFa1LJoN · Nov 1, 2016

Icy074 :

Looking into it more, I actually don't know. What I thought I knew was thrown out the window when I found out the 980 Ti significantly outperforms the 1060. With the prices how they are you might as well get a 1070.

But at the same time I am scratching my head trying to figure out how even a 1080 won't hit 144fps at 1080p.

I need to do more fps research because according to PC gamer, nothing will hit 144fps at 1080p, which is weird and has me confused.

I'm looking into it more.

elbert · Nov 1, 2016

EpIckFa1LJoN :

Please dont suggest drug use on tomshardware. In games there isn't that much differance between game benchmarks for the 2600K vs the 6700k. The 2600K isn't that old due to Intels past tick tock fast pass moves. Here is a compare between the 2 and the 2600K is very capable in games.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/287?vs=1554

EpIckFa1LJoN · Nov 1, 2016

elbert :

EpIckFa1LJoN :

Please dont suggest drug use on tomshardware. In games there isn't that much differance between game benchmarks for the 2600K vs the 6700k. The 2600K isn't that old due to Intels past tick tock fast pass moves. Here is a compare between the 2 and the 2600K is very capable in games.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/287?vs=1554

Please explain to me why then, when I upgraded from the 3770K to the 6700K that my fps went up across the board by as much as 10fps in some games, and I stopped getting random drops? The same GTX 1080 was used the entire time.

elbert · Nov 1, 2016

Icy074 :

Na the 780ti is faster than the 1050ti by a long shot. The 780ti is about as fast as the new 1060 3GB.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1717?vs=1771

EpIckFa1LJoN · Nov 1, 2016

OP, I would get a 1070 (preferably an overclocked one, I recommend the Zotac Amp Extreme or the Asus ROG Strix) and see how it goes I don't see any reason you shouldn't be able to hit 144fps on low even with a 1060 but benchmarks are telling me otherwise, if you need to upgrade to a new CPU, that might be a price you have to pay. If you don't have a budget, get a 1080, buy a 6700K, and play at 1080p. If that doesn't do the trick nothing will until the 1080 Ti comes out or unless you have $1,200 to spend on a Titan XP.

I also GUARANTEE a 1080 will be bottlenecked by that CPU, since my 3770k was, even overclocked.

Bmacker · Nov 1, 2016

elbert :

27% isn't a lot shot considering the 1050 ti is running on Pascal instead of Kepler. Newer games will almost demand Pascal's architecture because of it's stability and optimization. Also, the 1050 ti requires 150watts of less power.

elbert · Nov 1, 2016

EpIckFa1LJoN :

elbert :

Please explain to me why then, when I upgraded from the 3770K to the 6700K that my fps went up across the board by as much as 10fps in some games, and I stopped getting random drops? The same GTX 1080 was used the entire time.

Simple you went from a 3.5Ghz cpu to 4Ghz thus why I suggest the overclock of the 2600K. The core performans between Intels old to new has only been about 5% per generation.

elbert · Nov 1, 2016

Bmacker :

elbert :

27% isn't a lot shot considering the 1050 ti is running on Pascal instead of Kepler. Newer games will almost demand Pascal's architecture because of it's stability and optimization. Also, the 1050 ti requires 150watts of less power.

Yup but are you suggest he downgrade from a 780ti to save the 150watts. He should atleast get a 1060.

EpIckFa1LJoN · Nov 1, 2016

elbert :

EpIckFa1LJoN :

Simple you went from a 3.5Ghz cpu to 4Ghz thus why I suggest the overclock of the 2600K. The core performans between Intels old to new has only been about 5% per generation.

Actually I was overclocked to 3.8, but thanks for trying. Your conjecture is appreciated. Similarly with the GPUs, Pascal is an improvement in almost every way from Maxwell, Kepler, and every other previous gen, just like Skylake is better than Haswell, Broadwell, Sandy Bridge, and Ivy Bridge. Architecture makes much more of a difference than simple clock speeds. And PS... it still bottlenecked a 1080. Case closed.

elbert · Nov 1, 2016

So it was 200Mhz down from skylake stock and how much OC on skylake to get 10fps? Now yes its an improvement but small percentages for games. The big changes are only in video thus handbrake and the video output 264. In the last 4 years between the 2 most CPU advances has gone to more cores. Now CannonLake will bring 6 cores to the main stream. Until then its just same gains.

amtseung · Nov 1, 2016

Regardless of GPU choice, there's nothing wrong with attempting to overclock that 2600k since you already have it. Whether you choose a 1070 or 1080, that'll be a hardware upgrade of great magnitude. If your CPU then can't keep up even when overclocked (which I doubt, since my Nehalem Xeon W3540 doesn't have problems keeping up with most modern triple A titles), then you know what to upgrade next. Either way, an upgrade is an upgrade, whether it's piecemeal or all at once.

EpIckFa1LJoN · Nov 1, 2016

elbert :

I was probably overclocked more that that on my 3770K, the Skylake isn't overclocked at all. I don't do any video anything, that increase WAS in gaming. Like I said the CPU bottlenecked the GPU and I had a better CPU than he does. My GPU was being underutilized and I was getting fps spikes every minute or so, only thing I changed was the CPU, board, and RAM, and poof no more fps dips, plus on unlocked games the fps went up by about 10, on League of Legends it went up about 200. Of course thats a really CPU heavy game but the difference is there and if he has the money he should upgrade either way, if he bottlenecks, which he very well might, he might have to anyway. Even an i5 6600K would be a good upgrade for him, he's got 4-5 year old technology.

But I also say he should try the 1070 first and see how it goes, maybe it won't bottleneck its about 30% less powerful than the 1080 and he's not playing at 1080p.

But the whole time I'm sitting here wondering how you're trying to argue with an owner who actually went and upgraded his whole system, and knows exactly what gave the most increase in performance. I think out of just about anyone I should know the difference between a 3770K OC'd and a stock 6700K.

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