Need advice on a graphics card for a challenging machine

Steve Simons · Nov 2, 2016

Here is the machine I have:

HP Elite Desk 800 G2 Small Form Factor Business PC
Intel Core i5-6500 3.2 GHZ GM 2133 4 Channel CPU
16 GB DDR4 RAM (1x16)
256 SSD HD
200 W Platinum 80 Power Supply

It's a work computer, but I need to buy a graphics card for it that won't exceed the 200 W power supply, AND I need a pretty decent card. The computer runs some of our software for our Observatory (space is pretty cool, right?). The card also needs to be a small form-factor.

No, I did not get a say in what machine we had to buy. I would need special permission to change out the power supply, so assume we have to fit all this into the 200W max.

Thanks everyone! I don't ask questions often, I try to be the one to help solve.

Specific cards with links would be greatly appreciated.

Martell1977 · Nov 2, 2016

With that hardware and PSU...The PSU is just too low. Even the low power, RX 460 and GTX 1050 needs at least 300w. Below these GPU's would be ones that are bout the same as the iGPU it runs off of now.

mlga91 · Nov 2, 2016

You cant have a decent card running with that PSU, a 750 ti/1050 consumes just a bit below 75 W alone, you'll be pushing that beyond it's rated power.

jeffredo · Nov 2, 2016

The case is way too small and your power supply is way too weak. Even if your could shoehorn in a low profile card you integrated graphics on the CPU are probably better.

MusenMouse · Nov 2, 2016

Just a heads up most desktops with the designation of Small Form Factor (SFF) do not support 75W GPU cards in their motherboards, usually 35-45W max. Otherwise I would be buying and converting the closet full of Elitedesk 8000 SFF series at work into "gaming" computers"

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Rogue Leader · Nov 2, 2016

Martell1977 :

No they are not, both of those GPUs are significantly faster than the Integrated Intel 530 graphics of his cpu.

That said neither one will fit in that PC.

Now the reality is the ONLY choice here that would fit in that case is a LP 750ti such as this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G4RE4492&cm_re=msi_gtx_750-_-9SIA24G4RE4492-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA30R4KR5413&cm_re=Gigabyte_gtx_750-_-9SIA30R4KR5413-_-Product

Both are overpriced for what they are, they are about the lowest end I would go for gaming or intensive apps of any sort. I wouldn't call either "pretty decent".

In theory either one would work on 200w. Yes I know they call for 300, but they can only draw 75w from the PCIe slot, and nothing aside from the RX 480 comes near to drawing that. With a 65w cpu, and 1 hard drive 200w is just about barely enough.

Unfortunately also with an SFF PC there are no options for PSU upgrade, so you're pretty well stuck.

mjslakeridge · Nov 2, 2016

You could go with an additional PSU outside the case to power the GPU, but that is not a very elegant solution for a work PC, and you would have the additional issue of powering up the additional PSU, unless it is kept running all the time.

Martell1977 · Nov 2, 2016

Rogue Leader :

I was talking about GPU's that are below the power draw of those cards, like a 5450.

Rogue Leader · Nov 2, 2016

Martell1977 :

Rogue Leader :

I was talking about GPU's that are below the power draw or those cards, like a 5450.

Ok I see now, thats correct.

mlga91 · Nov 2, 2016

Yeah, going for a gt 720,730 and that kind of video cards it's really a waste of money.

Steve Simons · Nov 3, 2016

So I'm hearing bad news. When I saw 200W PSU, I knew it would be a challenge for sure. Thanks for all your help everyone. This is why I love this community.

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