[Help] Dual RX480 & FX-9590 Vs GTX 1060 & i5 6600K

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CallSignFancy

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Hello I have only three questions

First I would like to know what would be the better build mainly for performance but also for future proofing

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Amd Fx-9590
MSI 970 gaming (or 990fxa gaming)
Dual MSI RX480 4gb Gaming X

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Intel I5 6600k
Asus Z170-a
Asus GTX 1060 8gb Strix

If I were to go with the Amd build firstly would the fx-9590 bottleneck the RX480s enough to where the Intel/nividia build would outperform it and secondly if I were to go with Amd should I wait for the new Zen architecture CPUs to be realesed and get one of those (I plan this build around December-February) (build for BF1, Arma 3, Ark, Rust, Doom, Ect)



Many thanks -Jon
 
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weberdarren97

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1. For gaming performance and future proofing, the Intel and Nvidia build wins for sure. There's no upgrade path for AM3+.

2. The 9590 would bottleneck an RX 480. You see, AMD cards need more information from the CPU than Nvidia cards do. Thanks to this, AMD cards suffer significantly when paired with CPUs with weak cores. That 4.7GHz (5GHz Turbo) CPU will probably feel like a 3.5GHz Intel i5 without HyperThreading because of its low IPC. That's why AMD's claims that Zen has more than 40% higher IPC than FX really had a lot of enthusiasts hooked into the idea of upgrading to Zen.

Not only is AMD FX lacking in the IPC department, but also in the cores department. Salazar Studio: How Many Cores Do AMD FX Processors *Actually* Have?

IPS stands for instructions per clock. It's a measurement of how much work the CPU does per clock cycle. 5GHz is 5billion clock cycles per second. Even though the FX 9590 has a high clock speed, it isn't really faster than Intel CPUs because it's not doing much work per cycle thanks to its low IPC. Intel CPUs don't run at as fast of a clock speed, but have a much higher IPC. That is, to say, they do more work per cycle. An i5 6500 will do more than match the FX 9590, at less than half of the power draw and heat output. An Intel i5 6600K overclocked to 4.5GHz will run circles around the FX 9590 while still being under 200W.
 
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CallSignFancy

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I see, so say an i5 6400 would work the best with a crossfire setup? Unfortunately that means dishing out more money for a pretty MSI lga 1151 mobo but I guess that would be money well spent or no? Or should I forget my dreams of crossfire and go with a nividia? Darn sli for 1070 and 1080 only
 
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Zen may be a good idea, but we don't know for sure yet. We do know that the i3 6100 pretty much beats the entire FX lineup in most games. The FX9590 is a TERRIBLE investment. They are overpriced to begin with, but they also require an expensive motherboard and expensive water cooler to even operate.

For $1000, you can get a GTX1070

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170-GAMING 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING Video Card ($388.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($84.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $996.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-03 20:57 EDT-0400




I'm not sure why you are wanting to start a build off with crossfire, but that's never a good idea. Go with ONE of the most powerful video card you can afford. I was also not recommending the i5 6400, just using it as an example.
 
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I think this build makes a lot of sense. It's nice to see someone that recommends boards that actually have heatsinks on the MOSFETs. Although OP should be informed that there is no CPU overclocking (at least not via multiplier) on the H170 chipset, hence the lack of an unlocked CPU.
 
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Okay this has given me much to think about, I guess I need to do some more research, thank you for all the help it is much appreciated
 
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weberdarren97

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I do not recommend Crossfire/SLI for multiple reasons:
1) Power consumption and heat output.
2) Support. Not all games support multiple graphics cards. Many will only use one card, even though there are others installed and ready.
3) Non-linear scaling. Having two cards does not mean double the performance. If the game is well optimized for multiple GPUs, you may see about 1.5x the performance of a single card.
The rant can continue if you want to hear everything I have to say about this topic.
 
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CallSignFancy

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I believe you are right as I've heard the same from others, I guess I was dazed by the idea of dual GPUs XD (looks are fairly important to my build). the Intel/nividia appears to be the best way to go so that's what I'll look into. Again thank you for the help and saving my wallet from an atrocious price-performance ratio XD. Huh maybe this is why my last build didn't turn out so well

 
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May I ask what components were used in your last build?
 
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