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I'm looking to build a PC with a new monitor on top of tje $3000 budget so I say $4000 overall. What would you guys pick? I already have a i7 3930k 3.2ghz, rampage iv extreme mobo, 16G ddr3 2333hz ram, Gtx 680, h100 corsair cooler, 500g Samsung 850 Evo.

What do I need to do to get 180 fps and no input lag with the best monitor out there for competitive gaming.
 
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Acer predator is a pretty wide brand name, they sell a lot of models of screen, laptops, etc.

FPS is all about settings. If you aren't after completely polished graphics, than achieving a high frame rate is just turning down settings, and even resolution, to reach higher numbers.

2560x1440@144hz or even 3440x1440 at 75hz is a lot to ask of a single GPU. I average in the 90-100 FPS with a single 1080 running everything at max. But I purposely bought a G-Sync monitor so that there wouldn't be screen tearing. A few graphics changes and I could bring that back up to greater than 144 FPS, but I choose not to for the time being. Not that competitive in FPS these days, so I go for subtlety and guile.

Running FPS above the refresh rate of...
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Well, upgrading to a GTX 1080 would more than double your GPU performance. The rest can stay.

A new monitor for something like pro-gaming would probably be a 24" 144hz 1920x1080 monitor. You should easily achieve the frame rates you are talking about.

You could do all that for less than 1 thousand.

If you want the peak absolute performance from a gaming system, I would wait for the i7-7700k to come out and a 200 series motherboard. A new NVMe SSD, a GTX 1080 or two, and some new ram and you would be good to go again. Still not anywhere near your total budget.
 
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Is there anyone here that has achieved 180 fps with no lag issues or another other issues. Seems like monitors are on a league of their own And in trying to understand them.

I will likely keep my current build and upgrade my Gtx to a 1080ti, maybe 1100 series If it comes out for the holidays. Would a acer predator be worth it? Would the predator monitor give me more than any 144hz monitor ?? I'm trying to run for honor perfectly as perfect as possible
 
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Acer predator is a pretty wide brand name, they sell a lot of models of screen, laptops, etc.

FPS is all about settings. If you aren't after completely polished graphics, than achieving a high frame rate is just turning down settings, and even resolution, to reach higher numbers.

2560x1440@144hz or even 3440x1440 at 75hz is a lot to ask of a single GPU. I average in the 90-100 FPS with a single 1080 running everything at max. But I purposely bought a G-Sync monitor so that there wouldn't be screen tearing. A few graphics changes and I could bring that back up to greater than 144 FPS, but I choose not to for the time being. Not that competitive in FPS these days, so I go for subtlety and guile.

Running FPS above the refresh rate of the monitor is going ever so slightly reduce reaction times, but at the expense of more tearing.

1920x1080@144hz is a more reasonable resolution choice for a single GPU to push very high frame rates and minimize tearing. Even the highest settings are in reach of a 1070 (which is why 1920x1080 has started to slip from some of the reviewers benchmarks)

You are not going to see the 1100 series for quite some time. 1080Ti should be an interesting card, since it will basically be somewhere between the Titan XP and the 1080. Hopefully less then $800.

You would have to define lag issues when talking about FPS. Every game has intense moments where the frame rate will drop below the target. If you are referring to input lag on monitors, there are only a few that have really tried to get that down, and they are expensive. Usually the G-sync monitors as well. A couple of TN panels out there that are decent in that regard though.
 
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Yes input lag with the monitor is what I'm looking for. If I can keep my current rig and add a little bit to it but reach 180fps with medium settings as in graphics then what would I need. What monitor helps reduce input lag and trying to find 180fps over a 144hz monitor for any little bit of reaction time advantage and input lag advantage is what I'm looking for. Which is where I don't know if I will be compatible and able to run that with my current set up and just a new 1080 card ??
 
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G-Sync 24" http://pcpartpicker.com/product/pHGj4D/asus-rog-swift-pg248q-240-180hz-monitor-rog-swift-pg248q
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/3gDwrH/aoc-monitor-g2460pqu

G-Sync 27" 1440p TN http://pcpartpicker.com/product/BcTrxr/dell-monitor-s2716dg
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/zj8Zxr/asus-monitor-90lm00u0b01370
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/wzKhP6/acer-monitor-umhb0aaa01

If you want the best of color reproduction + the latest G-Sync module (comes with a handy HDMI input) But a slightly slower response time:
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/XvfmP6/asus-monitor-pg279q
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/ttnG3C/acer-monitor-xb271hubmiprz

The 165hz overclock is a bit of a disappointment. Reintroduces ghosting and input lag, so these are best kept at 144hz.


 
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I cant find the best current monitor that offers all that and will have more to provide when other monitors come out.. price is not an issue.. these are cheaper monitors.
 
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I actually own the PG279Q, it was $800 at release. Just a bit before the widescreen G-sync panels started hitting the market in force. Not sure I want a curved screen.

If you want the widescreen experience the Z35 is one way to go.

 
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I'm looking are BenQ RL2460HT right now as it is a 144hz monitor with almost no input lag at like a true 1ms. Also I rather a TN monitor than ISP as I want true performance. Any input on that and thanks for the help so far
 
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Eximo - you have the PG279Q but thats a 165 HZ? is that overlocked out of the box then? Does that mean you PG2790Q at 165 hz is introducing tearing and input lag compared to just the 144 hz in for example the PG278Q?

I understand now TN panel is the best to go for input lag and ultimate competitive gameplay. Now I'm assuming 1440p is the best on a TN 144hz monitor correct? Is there anything that is better than that?
 
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What resolution do you want? You can get 180 fps on some games at 1080p, but most people would rather get 60 fps with Free Sync or G Sync at 4k. Personally, I am building a PC with the same budget ($2500 sans monitor, but more valuable US dollars) and I preordered a Samsung CF791 3440 x 1440 100hz curved ultrawide Free Sync monitor.
 
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Damn that monitor sounds pretty crazy. I've decided to wait for the asus or benq 240hz monitor, likely one of them will be g-sync and at that time likely get the gtx 1100 series card (hoping early 2017). My power supply is 1000W, and everything else I think will be good enough to run 240 FPS and have the 240hz monitor to handle it.
 
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I can't blame you for building a system around a monitor, as I am doing the same, but at our budget, it makes sense to aim for something more substantial than 180fps. Can you tell the difference between 60 fps and 180?

For a more immersive experience, aim for width and resolution over framerate,
 
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Most of those monitors are coming with an extra 50% screen visibiality so large screen isn't gonna do much.ill get the answers I'm gonna post on GeForce forums to see who gets 240fps and let you guys know
 
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Getting 240FPS would require low settings on the modern AAA games, or low end games like CS:GO on high settings.

240FPS is asking for ALOT of GPU power for high/max settings, no matter the card.

And then you get to the point of, can you even see THAT many frames. (30/60/120 isn't a debate, difference is noticeable, but 240 may actually be too fast for people to perceive)
 
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Ok I still want to know if a 1080ti with my rig will be able to reach 240fps with no overcloxk and regular volts and temps - I run about 60-80 decrees celcicius
 
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