New to the Forum and I am in need of information/direction on a build

[Benweezyb]

Alright here we go, so I am a Legion player. I had an older PC I built that I played WoW on for a while through Mists of Pandaria and unfortunately had to leave the game. Now that I have started back playing again, my old PC is virtually garbage due to the requirements for Legion (15-20 Fps in Game). I've scoured the reaches of the web looking for ideas, builds, pre-built pc's and as far as I'm concerned I would rather spend the time building and researching myself. As I have been out of the game for a while my knowledge now on components has deteriorated. I have a base idea from some information I have gained through friends etc. but if I'm going to invest in this I do not want to have to upgrade this withing 2 years if I can avoid it. To clarify World of Warcraft Legion is THE ONLY game I play on PC, and I do not do any recording or video editing its strictly gaming, however I would like to crush the requirements and run it on Ultra settings. I know some friends who have bought pre-builts from Best buy etc that can run on Ultra (65-120 Fps) but I know how some manufacturers skimp on quality of PSU, Mobo etc. sometimes. Now with all that being said (sorry this is lengthy) this is what I have been looking at myself and/or recommended to purchase.

MOBO : MSI 970 Gaming DDR3 2133 ATX AMD
PSU : EVGA 500 W1, 80+ WHITE 500W
GPU : MSI GAMING RX 480 GDDR5 8GB
CPU : AMD FX-8350 FX-Series 8-Core Black Edition Processor
CPU Cooler : Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED CPU Cooler with PWM Fan
Memory : Kingston HyperX FURY 8GB Kit (2x4GB) 1866MHz DDR3
SSD : Radeon SSD R3 240GB Solid State Drive 2.5"
Case : Thermaltake View 27 Black ATX Window Gaming Mid Tower

The Overall final price for this where I am looking is roughly $748.00 (USD). I know i have left out the optic drive, and that there are a few things I think I can tweak or adjust for. This is not my rock bottom price either. This is just a quick go around for what I was looking to potentially build. I am TOTALLY open to suggestions, recommendations etc. ANY help is better than no help, and I would rather not waste time and money on something that could have been built better had I known more about it. Thanks for reading, I appreciate the help.

Benweezyb

 

[Hellfire13]

AMD processors are atleast a couple of generations old and not as powerful as current gen. intel cpus. You should be looking at this kind of a build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($37.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($81.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($61.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($379.99 @ B&H)
Case: Raidmax Horus ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $815.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-08 20:02 EST-0500

 

[john TJ]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B150 Gaming M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB GAMING X 3G Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $770.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-08 20:19 EST-0500

 

[Hellfire13]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B150 Gaming M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB GAMING X 3G Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $770.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-08 20:19 EST-0500

That is not a very good psu.

 

[Benweezyb]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B150 Gaming M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB GAMING X 3G Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $770.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-08 20:19 EST-0500

That is not a very good psu.

Could you be a little more elaborate on your reasoning as to those choices? I appreciate the responses but I'm also trying to learn about proper choices etc. when purchasing or looking for certain specifications.

 

[Hellfire13]

The current Corsair CXM range, like the one i have included is more efficient and is a higher tier unit than the CSM. You can check the tier list here... http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

Note that the CXM included in the tier list is the old(green sticker) one and the new(white sticker) redesigned one has been recently launched.

 

[Benweezyb]

OK, well I guess i should have clarified a little more. I could have easily gotten parts lists from outside sites, but I'm looking to find reasoning on certain projects or builds. Why is the build I've built sub par etc. I'm not looking for "AMD is old gen, Here's a parts list" , if anyone has any build they have legitimately used themselves I'd like to see the outcomes or performance if possible as far as FPS, GPU strain etc.

 

[Hellfire13]

The built is sub par because...
a> The cpu is weaker than most current intel cpu. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html
b> The gpu is weaker than what you can afford. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
c> The psu is not a very good unit. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
These are the prime factors of a pc.

To make it simple, you are paying $748 and the parts you have chosen doesnt give you enough value for money. Benchmarks are all over the web which you can google anytime you want. There are innumerable youtube videos for that also. We can only list you what can be more value for money for you. What you choose is your discretion.

 

[logainofhades]

First off, WoW is not AMD friendly, CPU or GPU wise. My FX 8320, even at 4.0ghz, still failed to compete even with my old i5 2400, using the same graphics card. My old GTX 770 was vastly superior, to my HD 7970 ghz edition. A current gen i3 6100 would outperform an FX 8350, in WoW. FX 8350 is a 4yr old CPU, on a dead platform. It will be replaced with Zen, next year, hopefully early next year. Your part choices are not in any way optimal, for a gaming rig, especially a WoW build. EVGA 500w is not a quality power supply. Evga's good lineups are the B2, G2, G3, and GS.

For a WoW rig, this would be a much better option.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($191.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($54.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB 6GT OC Video Card ($249.00 @ B&H)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT SW RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $748.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-14 15:00 EST-0500

 

[Benweezyb]

Alright well thank you guys for all the input. I ended up get a crazy good deal on a pre-built from Best Buy of all places. I have a friend who knows I've have been looking for a gaming rig that works there and as of last week they just started getting in new gaming computers. Well one of the computers they had on the floor was actually mis-marked on the price so he immediately called me to tell me to get up there. Granted it is a pre-built pc the specs on it from my opinion and research are very very good. The computer is made my ibuypower and basically the only thing that is by them is the case.

Specs:
Intel i7 6700k 3.4ghz CPU
Msi Armor gtx 1060 3g GPU
Asus H170 Pro Motherboard
2 x 8gb DDR4 2133 Adata Ram
120 gb Adata SSD
1 TB HD
Windows 10

The only thing i haven't looked at yet is the PSU outside of all that i think i got a killer deal for $859.00 out the door after taxes etc. Also if i were to ever change anything it's completely doable now that everything isn't so concealed and the case has PLENTY of room. Comments welcome

 

[Hellfire13]

That relatively more expensive unlocked(K) cpu is a waste since you cannot overclock it as they are not providing a z170 board. This should be a more balanced build for $850.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI H110M Gaming Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($59.21 @ OutletPC)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB 6GT OC Video Card ($249.00 @ B&H)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($46.97 @ Newegg)
Total: $840.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-15 18:04 EST-0500

 

[Benweezyb]

I mean in all honestly does it really matter THAT much if I'm only going to be playing WoW and nothing else? The game plays at 125+ fps with everything max'd out , and during raids its @ 80-120 fps. I haven't had any issues as of yet and I've intentionally been doing high strain stuff for the visuals and have had no issues what so ever.

 

[Hellfire13]

Well...since you have mentioned that comments are welcome, we are trying to give you a picture of whats best value for money. At the end of the day, what you choose is completely your discretion.

 

[Benweezyb]

Well yea I know i said comments welcome, I'm not mad or anything I'm just not keen on the tech side of it. I mean i can put a computer together but when it comes to unlocked vs locked cpu's or things like that is why i responded

 

[Hellfire13]

No problem. Cheers.

 

[logainofhades]

I am running a 6700k, with an H170 board, myself. Granted it was a stop gap measure, and I got the board super cheap. My only concern, with that prebuild, is what PSU it has.